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The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013

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One of the best things about my job is that I travel just about anywhere - whether by rail, bus, or by automobile - from one place to another each day. Last month, this was definitely the case.

The pictures I present to you tonight were taken between August 4th and August 20th. Some might've been seen elsewhere. Many were just taken on the fly, so pardon the quality. But as I've said, things like these are worth sharing.

Enjoy.

R28 7925



Redbirds of Unionport (now of Concourse) Yard R28 7924-25, R29 8678-79. R26 7774-75, R36WF 9586-87



Wait, it starts to get interesting. R110Bs



R12 5782



R14 5871. I really need to invest on a good camera.



But it get's even better.

In this picture: R40 4280-81, R95 Revenue Collection Cars 0R714-1R714 (Ex R21 7194 and R22 7422, respectively), R33WF 9307-9308, R36WF 9400-01, R32 #3370-71, R156 Locomotives, R33ML 9068-69 in the distance. During that time, I spied R42 4572-73 are inside the shop building on the track where the R40s are.




And even better yet...



And when it comes to The Living and the Preserved, there's also The Dead.

R22 7486 - merely a shell of itself now...



R17 6895 and R21 7267



And finally, soldiers who continue to march on.

R36WF 9582-83, and R33ML Rail Adhesion Car 8885, R36WF 9584-85, R33WF 9325, 9322, 9309, 9323.


Thank you for viewing.


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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Sep 24 21:51:21 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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I hope that 7925's appearance can eventually be restored to an as-built condition since it is the only car left with the original window frames.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Stef on Tue Sep 24 22:09:50 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Good job. You really did your homework!

I see you got 9400 and 01 in there.

Was expecting to see 9582 and 83 depart Unionport and take the trip to the great unknown, but as of yet nothing has transpired. 9584-85 haven't been uncoupled from the RAT, so perhaps it has a reprieve! We'll see in a few weeks when 8885 hits the road.

Did you see this?





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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Tue Sep 24 22:22:40 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Nice shots. Those SMEEs sitting in the yards are going to need a lot of TLC to look good again.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:30:14 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Stef on Tue Sep 24 22:09:50 2013.

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Thanks! The photo of 9400-01 (and the rest of 207 Yard) was taken back on 8/19. 9582-83 were still there a few days ago. Only a matter of time.

Thanks for the video by the way, first time seeing that one. There was more than one person filming that same train that night.





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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Stef on Tue Sep 24 22:34:24 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:30:14 2013.

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Thanks for the video you sent.

Regards,
Stef

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:36:35 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Sep 24 21:51:21 2013.

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When that pair gets restored, I would anticipate the cars to be painted in the dark Olive Green scheme. with 7924, perhaps drop sash windows from donor R30 school cars could work on that car if possible.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:40:23 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Tue Sep 24 22:22:40 2013.

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Thanks. They sure need lots of work. And lots of love.

R12 5782 on the inside. Photo by John Dooley, 2/1/2012



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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:41:39 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Stef on Tue Sep 24 22:34:24 2013.

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No problem.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 04:48:52 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on these photos.
i see pictures 1,2 and 8 are da concourse yard.
i hung out there with a scanner to watch da trsins going i and out.
i lived in that area for most of my life.
chud.
:)....

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 05:11:38 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Stef on Tue Sep 24 22:09:50 2013.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on this video.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 05:13:52 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:30:14 2013.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars.
what is with da 3rd working loco at da end.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 05:29:08 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 04:48:52 2013.

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sorry for da typo's.
it should read trains going in and out.
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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by MTA T on Wed Sep 25 06:50:36 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Very nice stuff!

As for R32s 3370-3371, were they returned to service, or are they still out of service?

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 25 07:40:10 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Thanks!!! I did not realize there were that many Redbirds still around...

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:40:08 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 25 07:40:10 2013.

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Oh yeah, there are plenty of Redbirds still around. 7774-75 are the sole remaining R26 in existence. 8678-79 the only R29s. And 7924-25 the only R28s on property (another pair, 7926-27 at the Illinois Railway Museum currently undergoing restoration, one car a a time).

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:44:51 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 05:11:38 2013.

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Thanks! :)

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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:48:59 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 05:13:52 2013.

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The 3rd locomotive there at the end was for the extra oomph moving the Redbirds to Concourse. Four Redbirds not moving under their own power, so the work cars did the moving for them.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:55:23 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 04:48:52 2013.

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Thanks again :)

Did you get see the green R10s at CCY? I am unfortunate to never get to ride on em.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:58:34 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by MTA T on Wed Sep 25 06:50:36 2013.

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Thank you! :) as for those two cars, they were in dead storage for some time I believe at Fresh Pond Yard

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 11:48:09 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 22:40:23 2013.

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I'm glad to see they stored parts inside the car to make restoration "simple" if you want to call it that.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 11:49:44 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:40:08 2013.

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And don't forget five R36ML/WF pairs are around including three pairs used on the last run of the Redbirds and I think 9309 is still kicking.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 14:32:01 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 11:48:09 2013.

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The R12/14 cars look very much intact. Just a matter of putting parts back together, a cleaning, and a painting. Possibliy replacement wiring as well among lots of other things. Would look goot for a static display. Mechanical-wise could be another story.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 25 14:38:45 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Fabulous..love the old equipment.
thanks for taking the time to post these.

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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 14:50:51 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 11:49:44 2013.

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9582-83, 9584-85, 9586-87 (the lucky pair from last weekend).

9542-43 haven't been on display since 2005 (?). That pair also made a brief appearance in the 2009 remake of Pelham 123.

And there's of course 9400-01, where there's a push by a few groups to keep it from scrap and to restore it.

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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 14:52:55 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 25 14:38:45 2013.

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Thanks you very much!

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Stef on Wed Sep 25 15:05:02 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 14:32:01 2013.

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Never say never....They may run some day.

-Stef

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Stef on Wed Sep 25 15:08:07 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 14:50:51 2013.

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Your photos are popular, said advocate of 9400/01 linked them on his facebook page.

Restore 9400/01? We'll see...

-Stef

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by chud1 on Wed Sep 25 15:36:18 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 08:48:59 2013.

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thanks for da info on da 3 locomotivie's.
chud1.
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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 18:17:35 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Stef on Wed Sep 25 15:05:02 2013.

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Yeah, but it will be a long term thing just like R10 3189 and the two R16s at CIY. I can't forget about the Standards too, which had some work done to them. Only a few other preserved SMEEs besides the TOMC cars could potentially run in the near future.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 18:21:17 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Stef on Wed Sep 25 15:08:07 2013.

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Well at least some are taking interest in that particular pair. Very unfortunate that type of interest wasn't around in 1950 or during the 1940s. If that was the case we would of had the first train that ran in subway preserved as well as 3342, the first steel passenger car ever built.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Sep 25 20:46:00 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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I hope those French Connection cars are getting their much-deserved preservation treatment.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Sep 25 21:18:29 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Sep 25 20:46:00 2013.

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I saw them in 207 Main Shop about a month ago.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by MTA T on Wed Sep 25 21:39:43 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Sep 25 20:46:00 2013.

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I think they are... I saw some R42-like car with an orange paper on it's sign part; it could be getting repainted and ultimately treated.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by MTA T on Wed Sep 25 21:40:24 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 14:50:51 2013.

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I am very curious about 9542-9543's whereabouts. Do you know if they are in the museum tunnels or in a train yard of the system?

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Stef on Wed Sep 25 21:45:08 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 18:21:17 2013.

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It's nice to have something to believe in, or a goal, so to speak. I wish 9400 and 01's advocate nothing but the best.

-Stef

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 21:57:53 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 18:21:17 2013.

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Or even these for that matter....



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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 21:59:25 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by MTA T on Wed Sep 25 21:40:24 2013.

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They're in the tunnels just outside the museum, along with R10 3189 and probably a few others.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by grand concourse on Wed Sep 25 22:04:39 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Worth the wait, thanks for sharing. Would be great if they were preserved. But is there room left for the museum?

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Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 22:06:11 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Stef on Wed Sep 25 21:45:08 2013.

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Same here.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 22:07:27 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 21:57:53 2013.

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Man I keep forgetting about those. It's more over unfortunate no production models were built.

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Posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 22:08:52 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by grand concourse on Wed Sep 25 22:04:39 2013.

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The Redbirds pairs could be preserved, but the big question is are they still capable of being preserved after all this time being exposed to the elements and so forth?

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by grand concourse on Wed Sep 25 22:11:07 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 22:08:52 2013.

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Yup. Then again would it be necessary to save every type? At least the IRT ones have working pairs, unlike their B division counter parts.

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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 25 22:17:29 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 21:59:25 2013.

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Do we know exactly what cars are sitting in those tunnels?

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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 22:19:22 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by CJ on Wed Sep 25 22:08:52 2013.

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I think of the Arnines when it comes to that question: most of the cars sat out in the elements for years. It's taken quite a while, but slowly each car on property is being restored. With these Redbirds, I think it could be done.

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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 22:20:51 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by grand concourse on Wed Sep 25 22:04:39 2013.

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Thanks. The way I see it, there'll never be room. Best to put cars on rotation every now and then I suppose.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by joe c on Thu Sep 26 00:52:58 2013, in response to The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Sep 24 21:45:48 2013.

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Awesome pics!


til next time

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by CJ on Thu Sep 26 00:56:18 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by grand concourse on Wed Sep 25 22:11:07 2013.

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Well it's rare for a transit system to save almost every car built, but we can try. You also have to keep in mind, the 26s and 28s originally had H2C couplers. Same with the R27s and R30s. The same could be done to these pairs again. Thankfully all R10-42s can run in the same train as each other.

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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Thu Sep 26 02:08:01 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 25 22:17:29 2013.

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What cars are back there does change from time to time. Someone can also chime in on this...I know both R10 cars (3184 and 3189) are in there, as well as the R36ML cars 9542-43. Not sure if R32 3352-53 are inside as well.

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Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Sep 26 02:24:20 2013, in response to Re: The Classics of Summer - Photos of the Living ,the Preserved, and the Dead, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Sep 25 22:20:51 2013.

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True.

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