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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jul 20 10:43:44 2013, in response to Re: Why not a shuttle train?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jul 19 19:04:57 2013. That's why I said to borrow a crew. Two RR crews have to be cheaper than however many bus drivers they're paying now.As for slots, for a few weeks Tracks 7 & 8 were out of commission due to the escalators being repaired/replaced, so obviously they have some headroom for maintenance. That headroom certainly could be used for an emergency additional 1TPH. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jul 20 10:47:52 2013, in response to Re: Why not a shuttle train?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 19 18:58:51 2013. The first two could be handled by dipping into Amtrak's spare margins and maintenance headroom (since it is temporary). As for planning, you're right: for some ungodly reason it's far easier to coordinate things with a bus company than it is to coordinate things between two railroads. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jul 20 11:20:30 2013, in response to Why not a shuttle train?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 19 18:39:31 2013. Amtrak leaves a spare P32 DM in NYP, they could use that engine for this "shuttle train".I mean how often is that spare P32 in NYP actually used? Besides there's a spare toaster left in NYP as well. So if that spare engine got used NYP wouldn't be completely lacking a protect engine. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 20 11:33:41 2013, in response to Re: Why not a shuttle train?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jul 20 10:47:52 2013. Bus companies are definitely more flexible than railroads. You can deploy a bus without worrying about the effect on other buses. That's not true of trains.If Spuyten Duyvil were out for weeks MNCR could probably hire Amtrak to run a shuttle to NYP. But when we're talking 1 weekday and 1 weekend, I can see that Amtrak isn't interested in upending all its scheduling for whatever relatively meager payment they might receive for 3 days of service. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 20 11:35:25 2013, in response to Re: Why not a shuttle train?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jul 20 10:47:52 2013. 15 of 18 Amtrak DM's are needed every weekday There is no shop margin to take from. |
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Re: Overhead pic (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 20 11:43:12 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 20 09:53:04 2013. asswipehole. I'm using FRA terminology. |
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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 13:11:07 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Jul 19 08:50:20 2013. Better yet, why not appropriate that space next to the northern end of the High Line (next to Jacob Javits) and stick a mini Metro North terminal there? It won't fit a 10-car train, but maybe it can fit a 7-car train with a diesel locomotive. And with the #7 about to be extended there, it's a relatively short hop to midtown. Best of all, very little tunnelling, if we keep it an open air terminal. |
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(Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 20 13:13:51 2013, in response to MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jul 18 21:25:26 2013.                                 That's it |
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(6+ min raw video, youtube) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 20 13:16:48 2013, in response to MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jul 18 21:25:26 2013. |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 13:56:45 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 19 02:56:20 2013. At least it only did the Crash ans Spill, and not the eXplode. :-) |
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Re: Overhead pic (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Sat Jul 20 14:23:43 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 20 11:43:12 2013. asswipehole.Thanks. You just blew up the spellcheck feature on my PC AND my iPhone...... STILL LOL@ASTONISHING INSULTS |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Jul 20 14:28:49 2013, in response to (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 20 13:13:51 2013. whats a mess.chud1. chud1. :).... |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 16:02:05 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by clean cab on Fri Jul 19 18:23:59 2013. MN got a huge break in that there was not a southbound train going by in the same spot & time as the derailment |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:26:25 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 09:46:21 2013. That's why I threw that up there. According to the locals, sometimes they aren't. It's not like MNRR pulls them over for license, registration and seatbelt checks. :) |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:27:24 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 20 07:41:50 2013. Yeah, well Eerie Lackamoney sure wasn't the snakes either. :) |
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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jul 20 16:34:09 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 13:11:07 2013. Diesel?............cough, cough, cough..........The high line would be ruined by air pollution! You'd have a hipster rebellion. Furthermore, where does the money come from even if it was feasible. Time for me to remind you guys of something once again which I've been saying for years: MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 16:42:49 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:26:25 2013. What is operating rule 46? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 20 16:46:51 2013, in response to Re: Why not a shuttle train?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jul 20 11:20:30 2013. Do they have an extra-long extension cord for the AEM-7 so it can go up the West Side Line? |
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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 16:53:02 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jul 20 16:34:09 2013. This would be a weekday or rush hour only service, since the terminal would probably be a bit too out of the way, except maybe for specials to Jacob Javits.. And if the commuters can deal with the diesel when they're on the platforms, I think the hipsters can handle a little diesel near the High Line! |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 16:55:52 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:26:25 2013. You have to be qualified on Physical qualifications and attend yearly MNCR rules classes, if you do not perform service on MNCR for one year your qualifications expire. all this info is in Computers and incase of accident verified.A person not qualified can be held financially and legally liable for any material loss, financial, loss of service, life or injuries. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:57:13 2013, in response to (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 20 13:13:51 2013. Ah, you KNOW whose wreck it is when the Corman guys show up. :) |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:59:36 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 13:56:45 2013. Oh, several of the loads exploded their contents onto the road. When CSX does a job, they go all the way. :) |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 17:20:17 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 20 16:42:49 2013. Strangely enough, I had to look it up and can't see what it has to do with what happened at Marble Hill:OR46: Trains using other than main or signaled tracks must move at a speed that will permit stopping within 1/2 the range the range of vision, short of a train, a car, an obstruction, a derail or an improperly lined switch, on-track equipment or a stop signal. What the BLET brothers are complaining about though is unqualified being forced to work runs that they haven't qualified on, and the jabber up here is that it was probably some rookie who got ordered to move the train despite that. It's an allegation, there is no "proff" of this. Apparently management is pressing this because they're short of crews down there. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 17:48:42 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 16:57:13 2013. no Corman or ....., Just MNCR wreck gang out of NWP |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 17:50:38 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 17:48:42 2013. Hulchers, is other outfit, but MNCR did not need assistance |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sat Jul 20 17:51:26 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by chud1 on Sat Jul 20 14:28:49 2013. you can almost smell it |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sat Jul 20 18:02:32 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 17:50:38 2013. Any idea what the cause of the derailment was? |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 20 18:08:13 2013, in response to (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 20 13:13:51 2013. Any word about if it's gonna be ready to go by Monday AM? |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 18:09:09 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sat Jul 20 18:02:32 2013. I hear rumors but nothing official so I won't get into it. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 18:10:17 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 20 18:08:13 2013. the official word is Monday morning will be a go for commuters. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 20 18:11:19 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 18:10:17 2013. Cool. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 18:11:37 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 18:10:17 2013. Hudson Line CustomersRegular Hudson Line service remains suspended until further notice due to Thursday’s freight train derailment in the vicinity of Spuyten Duyvil station. Limited hourly Hudson Line service will operate between Poughkeepsie and Yonkers stations through this weekend (Sat., July 20 & Sun., July 21). We expect to have regular Hudson Line service restored for the AM Peak on Monday, July 22, with possible delays. Until then, customers are strongly recommended to make alternate service plans. Please see http://bit.ly/eGUVR for details and schedules. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 20 18:28:09 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sat Jul 20 17:51:26 2013. Oh damn, I forgot how bad that area must smell, with all that trash just fermenting in the heat. |
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Re: (6+ min raw video, youtube) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 20 18:50:10 2013, in response to (6+ min raw video, youtube) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Jul 20 13:16:48 2013. Holy crap, what a mess !Even some concrete ties got wasted. Bill Newkirk |
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Re: (6+ min raw video, youtube) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 19:05:22 2013, in response to Re: (6+ min raw video, youtube) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 20 18:50:10 2013. over 100 concrete ties got destroyed and will be replaced with wood ties to night and tomorrow. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 19:25:45 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 17:48:42 2013. Corman came, saw. left, they were gone bring in sidewinders but no room, currently the NWP wreck gang is only once, they have been on duty since 9:30 pm on Thursday after finishing their normal day ship at 4pm that day. |
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Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 19:38:51 2013, in response to Re: (Friday's fix, Lots of pics) MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 17:48:42 2013. Saw Corman's crew in the pics, they're used to cleaning up CSX wrecks. I guess they didn't impress MNRR though if they got sent home. :)CSX is going to eat the cost no matter who does it - the Corman jack it up crews are pretty good at what they do though they're slow ... I can see MNRR wanting it cleaned up this month. Heh. |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 20:18:39 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 16:55:52 2013. There's even a list of CSX personnel thats forbidden, for a variety of operating rules violations, to operate in MN territory. My guess is that the list grew over the weekend |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 20:38:46 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 20:18:39 2013. Maybe CSX did a new hire. :)
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 20:55:08 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 20:38:46 2013. Im waiting for someone to post an old Good & Pleanty Cho-Choo Charlie commercial & say that its the current qualifying video for new CSX engineers!!:) |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 21:11:02 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 20:55:08 2013. Oh no ... if you've perfected your craft THAT far, you'll get scooped up by PanAm!CSX training: 
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jul 21 02:20:56 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 20 17:20:17 2013. That's why I can't figure it out either. I can understand if they're pushing guys to run trains on some weedy track, but on Metro-North? Maybe one or both parties doesn't know or remember what the rule is, so management just mentions it as a catchall excuse. And of course all this is probably done verbally, so there's no evidence it's CSX' fault, and if the guys are rookies, they probably need the job too much to question it.I'm wondering, if the crew knows they don't know enough about the track, would they try to dig up any information they can about the route on the Web, and store it on their smartphone(s) or something? It's of course sad if they have to resort to that, but I think they've reached that point already. :-( |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 21 02:35:42 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by 3-9 on Sun Jul 21 02:20:56 2013. Smartphone in the cab? LOL ... you're done right there. Funny thing though, the FRA expects you to answer it if they call you. Another fine mess of railroading. Like I said, I dunno what happened down there or why, only a bunch of grousing from the locals up here (who would NEVER volunteer a job down there) about just how bad things are at CSX. And it IS rookie reason, always has been.So we wait for the investigation and find out what really happened. From the looks of it though, bad train handling unless there actually was a broken rail there. |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 21 02:36:34 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 21 02:35:42 2013. That SHOULD have been "rookie SEASON" ... this is when the newbs get released to the road. |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jul 21 10:31:26 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 20 16:55:52 2013. Same thing applies for those of us qualified on the Hell Gate Line (Amtrak) between CP 216 (SHELL, New Rochelle) and NYP. Almost everyone is done the rules classes, and several engineers have done head end rides. Us conductors will be going thru the rides and doing the recertification runs within the coming weeks. |
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Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jul 21 10:33:10 2013, in response to Re: Photos (A HUGE MESS); MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 20 20:18:39 2013. Not really. We do not know what caused that derailment, and to me it looks like it was a load shift that caused the derailment. We will see what the NTSB, FRA, and subsequent MNR official investigation finds. |
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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jul 21 10:55:26 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jul 20 16:34:09 2013. MONEY DON'T GROW ON TREES!!!!!!!!!!!!!It does for logging and paper companies... Just sayin :). |
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Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:15:59 2013, in response to Re: This would be a good time to send to MNR to NYP, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jul 21 10:55:26 2013. You know exactly what I'm talking about.You buffs want this done, that done, something else done completely disregarding what a budget is and the budgetary process. This is what I mean by MONEY DOESN'T GROW ON TREES!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:49:53 2013, in response to MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by seabeachexpress on Thu Jul 18 21:25:26 2013. I just don't know how ready they're going to be for their goal of normal service tomorrow.Went "north" around noon and noted from a #1 train were hordes of orange vests on the roadbed toiling with a string of garbage cars behind them with heavy equipment in Marble Hill station. After a r/t bus ride with 323 and 3075, coming back on the #1 train were fewer personnel on the tracks with 3 MN diesels in the station at Marble Hill with the garbage cars still in the same place. My hunch is the best they can do is have limited westbound (GCT bound) service for the AM rush because nothing will be able to go back east. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:51:00 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Hudson line Freight Derailment shuts line, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jul 21 17:49:53 2013. Only 1 track available of course. |
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