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PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013 Bridgeport Viaduct    Norristown TC   near Dekalb Street station, formerly King Manor station   near County Line station    Ardmore Ave, adjacent to Merion Country Club (U.S. Open [golf])   SEPTA constructed a pedestrian bridge over the tracks to facilitate moving the crowds to Merion CC.  
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Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 15 22:24:31 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. They seem to have done a LOT of work for the US Open, between the temporary platforms and the overpass! Is it all going away after tomorrow? |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 22:35:24 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 15 22:24:31 2013. Don't know about the platforms. I heard that the overpass is going away. |
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Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 16 01:31:22 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. Nice. Is there really no fencing between the ROW and wherever you took the photos near King Manor? |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Jun 16 03:29:27 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. A+ on these pictures.over da river and through da woods to da us open we go. chud1. :).... |
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Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 06:56:58 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 16 01:31:22 2013. There is little fencing, if any, along the NHSL. |
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Posted by blue8irt on Sun Jun 16 09:29:55 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. What type of cars are these? They do not look like rail cars. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 10:02:05 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by blue8irt on Sun Jun 16 09:29:55 2013. 1992-1993 ASEA Brown Boveri (ABB) N-5 LRVs |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 16 11:39:59 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by blue8irt on Sun Jun 16 09:29:55 2013. Well, they are "rail cars". And they've been running since the 1990s. |
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Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 13:54:27 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. I don't know how many double-headers are needed to fill the line with a ten minute headway, but they seem to be able to use the existing fleet for that (26 available cars). Some cars are probably in the shop, so let's say they can run 22 of them or 11 double header runs.So, and I may be wrong, It appears they have enough cars to run to Norristown, and if it ever gets built in my lifetime, the King of Prussia spur at the same time? Chuchubob or others,comments? |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 16 14:17:05 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 13:54:27 2013. Trip length is 30 minutes northbound and 29 minutes southbound. There is a 2 minute difference between arrivals and departures at Norristown and 9 minutes at 69th St. Since the photo above shows the other track at Norristown empty, it I assume the Norristown procedure implies changing ends and leaving right away with no layover.This means 7 trains, or 14 cars plus protects, are required. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 14:29:30 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 16 14:17:05 2013. You have to allow for operator restroom stops. Looks like 69th St. with the 9 minutes is the choice.You can use the tiny restroom near the NHSL, or walk real fast and back to the SEPTA employee restroom.Thanks for your explanation. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 14:38:23 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 22:35:24 2013. The overpass fascinates me, It must be a prefab,that is easily removable.I never saw construction photos of it when it was installed:( |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 16 14:46:40 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. good photos |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jun 16 15:18:22 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. Aces! |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 15:37:33 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 16 14:17:05 2013. With the speed restriction on the single track Bridgeport viaduct, an outbound train would pull into Norristown and the other one would leave right away. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 15:53:08 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 15:37:33 2013. So it's more than a two minute layover because of two trains involved? |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 15:59:28 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 15:53:08 2013. Like an eleven minute layover. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 16:01:45 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 15:59:28 2013. Oh, OK , so they can use the restroom at NTC, thanks! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 16 18:59:05 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. very nice |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Jun 16 19:00:05 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. Excellent photos. Do you know if they issued any sort of operating instructions along the line for the cartball tournament? I'd think the USGA would have problems with T/Os blowing their horn through there. |
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Posted by aaron on Sun Jun 16 20:08:01 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by WillD on Sun Jun 16 19:00:05 2013. I heard the old Chicago cars have been removed from the 69th Street Yard... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jun 16 20:25:52 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 13:54:27 2013. Under normal conditions, are any "double-headers" used in regular/non-golf tournament for the regular schedule? |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Jun 16 20:39:36 2013, in response to PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jun 15 21:46:23 2013. Thanks for sharing Bob! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 16 20:59:52 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 13:54:27 2013. I'm surprised that it was never a consideration to make the P&W an extension of the MFSE when it was closed and in the midst of rebuilding. Certainly no chance of restoration of service to Allentown with the demise of the Liberty Bell service. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 16 21:20:23 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jun 16 20:25:52 2013. Rush hours. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Jun 16 21:40:36 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by aaron on Sun Jun 16 20:08:01 2013. Correct. They were not there on Saturday. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 04:24:08 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jun 16 13:54:27 2013. This is the first time I've seen a picture of one, and the first time the line has looked like a railroad, not like some sort of glorified electric bus. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 17 06:52:51 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 16 21:20:23 2013. Here is some information from a guy at SEPTA. They ran everything they had, almost for the Golf.I had heard there were 24 cars in service at times this week and Transportation wanted more. They only have 26 and one car (I forget which one) is OOS for VOH. They're basically running everything they have. As for KofP, they're running 17 cars on a normal weekday schedule now. The KofP service would only require a few more cars. So they could run that service with the existing fleet. As it is now, the P&W and Media Sharon Hill are the only locations that have the luxury to do things like have cars out of service during the day for housecleaning, routine safety inspections and stuff like that. Anywhere else that stuff has to be done at night when the cars and buses are available. The P&W doesn't even have 2nd or 3rd shifts presently. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 17 06:58:53 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jun 16 21:20:23 2013. Here is some information from a guy at SEPTA. They ran everything they had, almost for the Golf.I had heard there were 24 cars in service at times this week and Transportation wanted more. They only have 26 and one car (I forget which one) is OOS for VOH. They're basically running everything they have. As for KofP, they're running 17 cars on a normal weekday schedule now. The KofP service would only require a few more cars. So they could run that service with the existing fleet. As it is now, the P&W and Media Sharon Hill are the only locations that have the luxury to do things like have cars out of service during the day for housecleaning, routine safety inspections and stuff like that. Anywhere else that stuff has to be done at night when the cars and buses are available. The P&W doesn't even have 2nd or 3rd shifts presently. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 17 06:59:27 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 17 06:58:53 2013. Double post, sorry. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 17 09:31:08 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 04:24:08 2013. The shape of the NHSL car throw you off? It's always looked like a railroad to me, even with the new ABB cars. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Jun 17 10:05:24 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 17 04:24:08 2013. Here are a couple file photos of doubleheaders:Feb 22, 2008  Jan 21, 2012 
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jun 17 10:55:21 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA NHSL (P&W) Saturday, posted by chuchubob on Mon Jun 17 10:05:24 2013. Thnaks. |
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