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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri May 17 21:49:40 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 20:33:34 2013. Call the insurance institute for highway safety. |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 22:09:53 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Dj Hammers on Fri May 17 19:43:17 2013. It looks like it got clipped by the left front corner of the other train. Shots on the 10PM news show insulation and stainless steel sheets sticking out of the missing left front window of the striking train. (Still don't have that unit number)wayne |
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Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 17 22:11:58 2013, in response to Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 17 21:27:10 2013. There were 5 critical injuries, including one grave injury (whatever that means). |
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Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 17 22:16:08 2013, in response to Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 17 20:40:42 2013. When did Harlem and Hudson change from RR east and west to RR north and south? |
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Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 22:16:11 2013, in response to Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 17 22:11:58 2013. near death |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 17 22:16:45 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 21:22:11 2013. Almost as if the train derailed, came to a stop, then was smashed into by the New Haven bound train. |
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Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 17 22:17:37 2013, in response to Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident, posted by randyo on Fri May 17 22:16:08 2013. I should have clarified that on the former NYC, RR west was leaving GCT and RR east was toward GCT which was the opposite of the NH directions which seem to have remained the same. |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:08:14 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 22:09:53 2013. 9193. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 23:22:26 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:08:14 2013. THANKS Kev!-wayne- |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:27:22 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 23:22:26 2013. Thank heavens for our local NBC affiliate and over the air HD where you can make that stuff out. :) |
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M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 23:29:54 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:08:14 2013. 9193 (front)....9247 (the back) 9247 / 9310  9311 trackbed damage   9175  9311/9174 |
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Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:46:44 2013, in response to M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 23:29:54 2013. All I can say is wow. :(Yeah, Jim Kambrich, our local NBC affiliate anchor, has family down there so of course they rolled a truck to get video. He's from there. |
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Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 23:58:12 2013, in response to Re: M-8 damage car# 9193, 9247/9310, 9311 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:46:44 2013. Hopefully 9174-75 and 9310-11 (that's the newest one) have only undercarriage damage, and that it can be fixed. 9247 I'm not sure can be repaired, and 9193 looks worse than it probably is. Notice that she appears to only have a black eye and that the corner isn't deformed; just stuff wrapped around it.wayne |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 18 00:34:21 2013, in response to Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 19:38:18 2013. Oh well |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 18 00:35:08 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 19:55:18 2013. Oh. Well |
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Re: Overhead shots from News 12 CT Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 18 00:38:08 2013, in response to Overhead shots from News 12 CT Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 20:00:07 2013. Yeah he poor trains. Never mind the scores of PEOPLE injured. SMH, fukkin foamers |
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Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 00:48:12 2013, in response to Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 21:18:24 2013. 
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Helicopter footage, wrong spot to derail; Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 18 01:24:48 2013, in response to Metro North Incident, posted by Jsun21 on Fri May 17 18:35:31 2013. That is a very bad place to derail. There is a bridge reconstruction just north of the accident, 2 tracks out of service @ 0:40 in the video. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:08:57 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 21:15:57 2013. Unless the cause of the derailment can be traced to a defect...like if it was caused by a wheel fracture, or a cracked truck frame... |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:10:00 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 21:17:19 2013. If your car crashes because of a defective part, the manufacturer pays. Ask General Motors and Ford. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 02:12:10 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:08:57 2013. That may be ... same deal for cars. Bottom line though, it's the insurer that goes after that. In MTA's case, self-insured but still ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 02:13:29 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:10:00 2013. Right, but they pay the insurer, not you. Now if it isn't a defective train though, MTA eats it, warrantee or not. That's where I was going with it since it looked from some of the pictures like the problem was a rolled rail. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:13:39 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri May 17 19:37:49 2013. New crash standards proving themselves, unfortunately. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:17:16 2013, in response to Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 19:38:18 2013. Most of the pictures make it very difficult to tell if both trains were on the same track, but the story I've been getting is one train derailed into the path of the other. |
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Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 02:22:32 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Sat May 18 02:17:16 2013. Yes. That's what happened. One derailed, train on adjacent track hit the wreck. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 02:38:45 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri May 17 18:54:35 2013. And *that* is why passengers aren't allowed to sit in the RFW seat.Hope those M8s can get repaired. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 02:51:10 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 17 19:03:22 2013. Wonder what kind of new regulation(s) this accident will pile on top of rail operators, making it more expensive than ever to run trains . . . |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 02:53:43 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 19:36:36 2013. Eh, a 8' concrete wall between the tracks would be just as good... though not terribly scenic (and guarantees greater damage to any derailing train). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 02:54:38 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 21:09:00 2013. If it was determined to have been caused by faulty manufacturing, then yes. Bad track? No. . |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 02:55:42 2013, in response to Re: Metro-North Incident, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 18 02:51:10 2013. My guess is temporary speed restrictions through the area as long as the 2-track alignment remains. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 03:02:39 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 02:53:43 2013. Steel pillars! Carve them up before they can reach the adjacent track! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 03:03:47 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 02:54:38 2013. Suggestions (repeat! suggestions) from the photos make it look like a track/ROW issue, that's what I ran with. But then again, we ought to wait for the adults to file their homework. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 03:06:15 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 03:03:47 2013. I agree, it looks like it's the track, but we should wait for the experts to do their thang.Re-railing these cars will be tricky, since you can't simply attach them to cranes and lift them up through all that catenary. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 03:12:00 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 18 02:38:45 2013. One of them is probably done for good, Another needs SERIOUS work. The rest will most likely be back in service after major overhauls/repair jobs. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 03:18:21 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 03:06:15 2013. According to the report in the TimesUnion up here, "The trains suffered significant damage to their front ends and siding, Malloy said, and it appeared their wheels systems had jammed together in the crash." (sic)Source to TimesUnion: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Two-trains-collide-in-Fairfield-4526690.php#ixzz2TctPEOTR That's gonna leave a mark. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat May 18 03:59:39 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Jsun21 on Fri May 17 18:43:30 2013. hope everyone is ok there.chud1 |
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Re: Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat May 18 04:20:41 2013, in response to Interior wreck M-8 pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 20:35:35 2013. holy s%&t.chud1 |
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Re: Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat May 18 04:23:39 2013, in response to Metro-North directionals broken down....Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri May 17 20:40:42 2013. works for me Train Man Paul.chud1 |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat May 18 06:53:56 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Joe V on Fri May 17 20:21:38 2013. Railroads run coal hoppers that weigh well over 100 tons without breaking rails. M-7 and M-8 cars don't weight anywhere near that. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 06:56:23 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 18 03:12:00 2013. The one with a side ripped off - forget it.The other had its end smashed in. Gotta get underneath and look for frame damage. 4 M-2's got a stay of execution. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 06:58:49 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 21:09:56 2013. All because the P40's early on were causing signal troubles and banned from the head end on certain railroads. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 18 07:00:18 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 18 02:22:32 2013. Imagine the results if this happened with the LIRR last month in Forest Hills derailment. |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Sat May 18 07:44:01 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 20:35:30 2013. Ditto here. Paul. Glad you're ok. Any word on the crews of the trains involved? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 07:45:07 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 21:08:18 2013. No Warranty, but still under serial production. They can HIRE the manufacturer to rebuild them.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 07:50:49 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by merrick1 on Sat May 18 06:53:56 2013. 1) Coal Cars are 50' long. PAX cars are 85' long.2) Coal Cars have COUPLERS between each unit, PAX cars have DRAW BARS and PAX couplers are tighter than regular freight couplers anyway. 3) It is not weight that eats the tracks as much as it is latteral dynamic farces. ROAR |
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Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 18 08:15:49 2013, in response to Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 17 21:18:24 2013. ACCORDING TO LION:First train derailed. Second train was close but not quite that close. PAX in first train would have gotten out of their seats, start moving toward end exits and into safer cars. SECOND: not enough time to drop a redball on the east bound. Engineer should have seen the problem and should have begun breaking. His unit took most of the damage on his train derailing it so that the PAX compartment received only a glancing blow. No damage to his space engineer survives. Your impressions may vary, LION suspects that the NTSB will take this one up and details will appear in about two years. ROAR |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 08:45:34 2013, in response to Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 17 19:23:38 2013. The train is sitting in Bridgeport, spitting distance from the Fairfield line. derailment by fred guenther your pal, Fred |
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Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat May 18 09:00:31 2013, in response to Re: Even More Interior wreck M-8 pics Re: Metro North Incident, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 17 22:11:58 2013. including one grave injury (whatever that means).They started digging? |
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Re: Metro North Derailment and Collision |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 09:00:57 2013, in response to Metro North Incident, posted by Jsun21 on Fri May 17 18:35:31 2013. Title fixed to make more searchable later.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 18 09:17:11 2013, in response to Re: Overhead pic Re: Metro North Incident, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 20:06:00 2013. Those numbers will slide around depending on source. A Bridgeport PD officer told us that 60 were injured and 12 critically.your pal, Fred |
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