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Posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jan 8 09:50:51 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Tue Jan 8 02:08:23 2013. For rush hour use ONLY (a/c legal issues)...1741-1745 2141-2145 FWCs installed on both. Regards, George Chiasson Jr. (Widecab5@aol.com) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 09:51:37 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 7 20:12:46 2013. The (7) got ALL NEW CARS in 1963.The (A) got ALL NEW CARS in 1948. So quit your bitching! ROAR |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jan 8 09:56:36 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jan 8 09:50:51 2013. A/C? Accessibility? If so, what would those issues be? |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Jan 8 10:01:25 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 8 09:46:15 2013. I doubt that anybody cares as much as we do about what type of train we ride. As long as it's clean and fast, there is nothing to complain about. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Jan 8 10:05:33 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Sweet!!! Though I know at least one 6 Line conductor who will want to avoid it!!! Most become too comfy and accustomed to the R-142As.Nice to see a little ol' school (somewhat) return to the 6. :-) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 10:11:23 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 09:51:37 2013. 1963 was 49 years ago. 1948 was 63 years ago. That's museum stuff. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 10:16:55 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 10:11:23 2013. I remember when they were all new. Does that make ME museum stuff?ROAR |
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Posted by Chao-Hwa Chen on Tue Jan 8 10:34:15 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:02:59 2013. I remembered that when the R142As started running on the 6 in 2000. The train operators preferred R62As to R142As. Ten years later, the R62As will be back on the 6 and the operators start to get used to handling R62As. 10+ years are indeed a long time. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Tue Jan 8 10:36:21 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 10:16:55 2013. Does that make ME museum stuff?::::: thinking does the Museum Of Natural History already HAVE a stuffed lion, hmmm ::::: STILL LOL@RECORDED ROARS |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 11:15:56 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Widecab5 on Tue Jan 8 09:50:51 2013. That's not good. 1741-45 is fine, but 2141-45 is one of the recent conversions from single cars to linked cars. And while all the cars have the circle/diamond LED's, only the original Corona linked cars have the special switches to operate the signs. On the newer linked sets, you have to operate the Air Comfort or Car Body Lights buttons, which (6) line crews will not know to do. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 11:46:06 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Tue Jan 8 10:01:25 2013. Agreed. Though i kinda think they should consolidate all the remaining R142As on one line. Other than that leave it as a swap b/w the 6 and 7. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 11:48:37 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by 5119 on Mon Jan 7 21:23:25 2013. From 1948-1955 it had the most modern fleet in the IRT. From 1964 to 1984, it's cars were among st the newest in the fleet as well. It also got the only IRT cars purchased between 1922 and unification (WF Low-V's). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 11:50:38 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by merrick1 on Mon Jan 7 21:49:44 2013. Yep. One could say that, until the 1980's, the Flushing line always got the newest cars in the IRT fleet, not the reverse. Even then, the Flushing line's R36's were the first fleet to undergo a major GOH. Their got the "redbirds" first. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 8 11:55:24 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013.  |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 12:03:06 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jan 7 22:41:55 2013. Any car that doesn't robotically talk to you these days us good. Used to hate the R62 because those bucket seats seem designed for tiny Japanese butts. |
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Posted by mshull on Tue Jan 8 12:34:35 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. I'm disappointed in management's decision to put the displaced R62As on the Pelham line.Like others in this thread, I think they make more sense on the 4, numerically, operationally and maintenance-wise. This seems like a repeat of the 1/9 skip-stop rollsign problems. Half of the front signs will be wrong during rush, displaying a 6 bullet instead of a 6 diamond if the custom of not changing front signs continues. If the road blows up, the side signs will be wrong too. They will wrongly display a diamond with Parkchester as the north terminal or a bullet with Pelham Bay Park as the north term. Hopefully Pelham Bay Park and Parkchester are close to each other on the rolls, but it will still be a lot of cranking 20 side signs per train multiple times a day. The 4 on the other hand, only changes south terminals twice a day. Once when it is extended to New Lots after midnight and then again before rush when it is shortened to Utica. Even then, this doesn't affect every train set, because most of them are laid up in the yards at that time of the day. Many of them could be set for the 4's regular daytime route and left that way. It just makes more sense to do a three-way swap, Pelham's cars to Corona, Corona's cars to Jerome, and Jerome's cars to Pelham. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jan 8 12:58:30 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 10:11:23 2013. WADL, 1963 was 50 years ago - - 1948 WAS 65 years ago. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:10:30 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 10:16:55 2013. I remember the R-10s when they were brand new!!! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:14:19 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jan 7 21:44:48 2013. Not to mention that when the original Steinways, 4025 - 4036 were assigned to the Flushing Line, they were the newest IRT cars and as the Flushing Line was extended, new Steinways were assigned to the line. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:18:43 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 12:03:06 2013. Another urban myth concerning the bucket seating on the R-62s. The reason that the buckets were so small was that with slightly larger door openings than older IRT cars, the seating area was slightly smaller so to provide the same number of seats as the older cars had, the MTA specified the smaller seats even though it was only on paper. For some reason the MTA insisted on retaining the bucket seat design instead of keeping the bench seating which it eventually returned to on the NTTs. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:22:51 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mshull on Tue Jan 8 12:34:35 2013. I believe that there are still some 4s that turn at Bwlg Grn in the rush. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jan 8 13:29:19 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Time to party like it's 1999. |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Tue Jan 8 13:45:39 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 09:51:37 2013. "The (A) got ALL NEW CARS in 1948"Not true. There were several R-1/9 put ins on the A for the rush hour to well into the early 70s. The A was'nt solid R-10 The Flushing line never got Lo V or Steinway rush hr put ins after 1950. So quit your roaring! |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Jan 8 13:52:29 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 8 10:16:55 2013. me and da R1/9's are museum stuff.chud1 |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jan 8 14:35:24 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Neat!!! I remember in the 1990s and early 2000s, a few WF cars were on the 4 & the 6. So this is similar, except that they're sort of coming home!!! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 14:56:58 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:18:43 2013. I know, it's a joke. The R62A's weren't even made by a Japanese firm. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 15:07:11 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 14:56:58 2013. True, but they used the same design as the 62s! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 15:08:10 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 15:07:11 2013. Which used seats designed in the 70's by either the MTA or St Louis/Pullman. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 15:09:28 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 15:08:10 2013. The design of the seats goes back but the size was based on the MTA's desire to make people think that the cars could seat the required number of people. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jan 8 15:22:25 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 11:15:56 2013. On the newer linked sets, you have to operate the Air Comfort or Car Body Lights buttons, which (6) line crews will not know to do.Wouldn't somebody show them? Or instructions be issued? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 15:27:38 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jan 8 14:35:24 2013. In the early 90's there were always a number of orange doored WF cars on the #6. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 8 15:32:25 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 01:27:19 2013. Makes sense, since 7899 is on property, the first of the singles.So if that is the case, the singles will be 7899-7936. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 16:19:30 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mshull on Tue Jan 8 12:34:35 2013. Were there this many complaints about the R62As in the past prior to the R142As arriving on the 6? |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 16:22:27 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:18:43 2013. Pity there are only 4 cars, of the R62/A fleet, (1587-90) that have the bench seats... |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 8 16:39:11 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 16:22:27 2013. I cannot wait to see a picture of the R-62 / 62 A sleeping with the fishes. THey are tin cans on wheels. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:01:42 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Jan 7 17:11:59 2013. The passengers aren't going to like it. The R62's have shitty lighting, and a gloomy ambiance. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 8 17:06:30 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:01:42 2013. agreed. they only look good with the wraps |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue Jan 8 17:09:55 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:01:42 2013. Joe, since when does that matter to the TA ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:12:44 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue Jan 8 17:09:55 2013. Obviously it doesn't. I don't understand their aversion to running a single light tubes down the middle of the ceiling. The vertical diffusers from the advertising panels do not emit much lumens, and the ceilings appear dark. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 17:13:51 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. I hope that the operators who are so comfortable with the R-142As just remember to Flush on the R-62As so the float valve is activated before entering a station. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 8 17:15:20 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 8 01:14:45 2013. Shouldn't door opening width be dependent on ridership, not just stops? I would think the 4 has higher ridership than the 6. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 17:20:17 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 8 17:15:20 2013. Yup. Good luck trying to fit on a 4 on the UES during the rush hours. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 17:21:09 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 8 16:39:11 2013. do they have asbestos? If not then why not just scrap them for the metal? |
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Posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 17:24:22 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 8 15:32:25 2013. Agreed!Was told by a fellow subchatter that I was right with my first impression and that there should be a train of 6 complete R188's on the property; they should be numbered 7816-21. Kawasaki is alternating between groupings, so the next batch will be a 5 car set numbered 7822-26. -Stef |
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Posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 17:27:07 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 8 16:39:11 2013. They already have. Does anyone remember 1367, 68 and 1436 that went to sleep in the Atlantic Ocean?-Stef |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:28:50 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mshull on Tue Jan 8 12:34:35 2013. Could they use those green & red LEDS to tell which flavor of 6 it is ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:33:38 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 8 12:03:06 2013. Do they not have the exact same bucket seat as an R44/46 ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:36:27 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 17:24:22 2013. I don't understand. I thought R188's would be 5's and 6's ? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 17:41:49 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:36:27 2013. No - the R-188s will be CBTC ready and thus assigned to the #7 line which, by coincidence, is the line being equipped with CBTC as we speak. The Lexington Line is many yeas off in the future. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:43:19 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 17:41:49 2013. I mean 5 and 6 car sets. Why are people talking about "singles" ? |
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