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Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 7 16:59:06 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. A non NTT on the Lexington? Hope the conductors remember the station stop sequence! :) |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Jan 7 17:11:59 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Bracing for foam... |
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Posted by FarRock on Mon Jan 7 17:31:58 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Did they put Transverses in the C/R Position.I guess an 142/188 will be in service on the (7) real soon. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Mon Jan 7 17:54:39 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. I still think they would be better on the 4. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:03:55 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by FarRock on Mon Jan 7 17:31:58 2013. It should have transverse cabs on all ends.This move is not directly related to the R-188s going into service. The (6) is just a tad short right now, so they're taking an early delivery. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jan 7 18:08:41 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Foam Foam Foam.And thanks :) your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jan 7 18:08:42 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Foam Foam Foam.And thanks :) your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 7 18:10:19 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:03:55 2013. Short? Because of the cars being modified for the R-188? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:47:10 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 7 18:10:19 2013. Sort of. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:48:10 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jan 7 18:08:42 2013. Double the foam?? |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:02:59 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. I have not been looking forward to this.I am sure the crews are not happy and the passengers will be even less happy than the train crews. We were so used to riding the nice technology trains. I wonder how many T/Os have to qualify or re-quality to operate double handle trains. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 7 19:10:30 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:02:59 2013. Although the joystick handle is nice (for righties anyway) the old two-fisted running is like riding a bike. You don't forget how to do it properly. In my case, even after thirty years since the last time. :) |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:13:57 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 7 19:10:30 2013. But since the R142As have been on the Pelham a long time I am sure that there are some T/O that have no practical handle time (or no time at all) using the double handles. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 19:22:19 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 7 19:10:30 2013. The R-142 and R-142A have their controller in the middle, so you can use either hand. |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 7 19:24:43 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:02:59 2013. Think of how BMT Broadway subway line riders felt when R-1/9s showed up there on the EE long after the standards & triplexs' were retired & bright shimy R-32s were in service. Talk about a time warp! |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jan 7 19:25:49 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:48:10 2013. You can say that again :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by FarRock on Mon Jan 7 19:30:11 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:03:55 2013. This is gonna be fun, havent rode a 62 on the (6) since the Summer of '99 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 7 19:33:22 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 19:22:19 2013. Don't mind me ... B division brat. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 7 19:33:49 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:13:57 2013. If that's the case, I'm sure they'll let them run a few through the car wash to get their chops back. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 7 19:36:51 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Oh goodie, it's the 1990's again. |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:39:51 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 7 19:24:43 2013. I can imagine but in the case of the Pelham line, we had the R62As when they were brand new and now we get them back as used goods. |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 7 20:12:46 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:39:51 2013. When they were sent to Flushing in the first place,at the time the R-33-36s were getting the boat ride. They were used goods then too, no? I think the Flushing line holds the distinction of being the only line in the system having its entiire fleet replaced by used cars when the R62a s replaced the St Louis cars |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 7 20:53:17 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. R62A Flashbacks on the 6 Line..They was good trains... |
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Posted by 5119 on Mon Jan 7 21:23:25 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 7 19:36:51 2013. The Flushing Line seemed to always have the oldest cars. Thye had the oldest Lo-V's (4024-4036), the oldest SMEES (after 1956) and the oldest EL cars. (Some of the old 6-1111-6 el cars were built in 1878! |
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Posted by trains61 on Mon Jan 7 21:35:51 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by 5119 on Mon Jan 7 21:23:25 2013. The Flushing Line seemed to always have the oldest cars.Well, not always. The R-36`s were brand new in 1964. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jan 7 21:44:48 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by 5119 on Mon Jan 7 21:23:25 2013. The 7 line got R12/14/15's brand new while the main lines had Hi-V's and Lo-V's. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Mon Jan 7 21:49:44 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by trains61 on Mon Jan 7 21:35:51 2013. And the R-36's remained the newest cars on the IRT for 19 years.I think the 1939 Worlds Fair cars were the newest cars on the IRT for 9 years. |
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Posted by trains61 on Mon Jan 7 21:51:52 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by merrick1 on Mon Jan 7 21:49:44 2013. I was only a tyke but got to ride them to the Fair in 1964. (R-36`s) |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 7 22:30:53 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Since the 6 only uses 10 cars, I guess there is a single sitting forlornly in Corona yard :( |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Jan 7 22:30:54 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Ian Lennon on Mon Jan 7 17:54:39 2013. Even if they were all on the 4, there's still more R62As than what the 4 needs and the 6 would still get R62As. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Jan 7 22:31:53 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:02:59 2013. For the passengers, if they are that unhappy, they can take the cab or the bus. No one's forcing them to ride the 'old trains'. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Jan 7 22:34:22 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by FarRock on Mon Jan 7 19:30:11 2013. For me I think it was sometime in 2002. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jan 7 22:41:55 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 7 20:53:17 2013. Still are!\=w= |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 7 22:42:36 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Jan 7 22:41:55 2013. I always liked them... |
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Posted by grand concourse on Mon Jan 7 22:43:44 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 7 22:30:53 2013. 7 will need all the singles they can get if some of them are being linked into 5 car sets. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 7 22:52:04 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by grand concourse on Mon Jan 7 22:31:53 2013. Excellent response. That's horseshit that the passengers are so accustomed to a particular car. Vast majority wants to get to their destination. I think It's great they're on the 6. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jan 7 22:53:59 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Mon Jan 7 19:02:59 2013. I wonder how many T/Os have to qualify or re-quality to operate double handle trains.None unless they are New Train operators... |
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Posted by Stef on Mon Jan 7 23:43:02 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Has a train of R142A's (besides 7211-20) been pulled from 6 service? Perhaps the swaps can be done even if the conversions to CBTC are not yet complete....-Stef |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 00:54:42 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Stef on Mon Jan 7 23:43:02 2013. 74-something is at East 180th Street Yard for some sort of testing along with the 188s. On top of that, a new SMS program is starting for the R-142A's before they get converted, so Westchester is a little short. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 01:03:54 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. I anticipate the R-62A will depart Pelham Bay Park sometime between 4:30 PM and 5:05 PM. Might be subject to change. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 01:05:42 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 7 22:52:04 2013. +1Plus in the next 10 or so years those old cars will be replaced with even newer cars. The 7 is getting a mix of new and refurbished cars. So it's not like the 7 is getting a totally new fleet. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 8 01:14:45 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by grand concourse on Mon Jan 7 22:30:54 2013. I agree with Ian. According to Joe Korman’s site, the #4 and #7 are assigned almost exactly the same number of cars, 410 vs 409, but the #6 is assigned 460. This means that if all of Corona’s R62A cars are transferred to Westchester yard, Westchester would have to maintain a mix of R62A and R142A cars. However if Corona’s cars are transferred to the 4, and Jerome yard’s R142 and 142A’s transferred to Westchester, then Jerome, which already maintains 20 R62A cars for the 42 St shuttle, would be 100% R62A, while Westchester would maintain two much more similar R142 & 142A fleets, simplifying maintenance at both yards. Also, the 4 makes fewer stops than the 6, especially along Lexington Av, so the narrower door openings would be less of a problem. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 01:19:14 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jan 8 01:05:42 2013. Exactly |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 01:20:53 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 00:54:42 2013. 7481-7485 are at the East. |
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Posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 01:27:19 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 00:54:42 2013. You're the man in the know, so a big THANK YOU is in order!7481-85 are at the East, I was starting to wonder if they were testing the compatibility of cars that are CBTC equipped versus cars that don't have it? Is that plausible? Can anyone here also tell me how the R188's are supposed to be grouped? I was under the impression that for the first 5 car set to be delivered (7811-15), a 6 car unit would follow (7816-21), then another 5 car unit would come after that (7822-26)? Is that the case? Someone reported 7816-20 being on the property, but then this would be strictly a 5 car set. If I do the math the right way, and Kawasaki does a group of 5 car units first, then 7811-50 would be the 40 cars assembled. 7851-98, which equals 48, would be in 6 car groupings. There's supposed to be 88 complete R188's, then the 38 add-ons for the converted R142A's. -Stef |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Tue Jan 8 02:08:23 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 01:03:54 2013. I wonder what the car #s are? (The R-62As at Westchester) |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Tue Jan 8 08:09:55 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 8 01:14:45 2013. That's exactly what I was thinking. Let's see if the MTA discovers this logic. |
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Posted by J Trainloco on Tue Jan 8 09:05:00 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 7 20:12:46 2013. The A? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 8 09:46:15 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 8 01:14:45 2013. Logically that makes sense, but then you will have a fit among 4 train riders that their NTT are being swapped for "grimy" R62A's. The other issue is that your scenario involves a 3rd move rather than the 7 and 6 just swapping equipment |
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