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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 22:18:02 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 23 22:14:21 2005.

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Well thank you terry.

Yes they ARE MINE...

My tax money PAID for them...

It's a little early to be playing[and I do mean playing]the wise ass.



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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:26:07 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 22:13:21 2005.

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MOO, buddy! Oh yeah, Alzheimer's has *NOT* set in yet. :)

That's what makes this ONE thing so ... well ... strange. And MY guy is hard at work on it. He's got an even better BS detector that I do and he says this is every bit for real.

BTW: Aint's seen any real action on that 55 thang either. Hmmm ...

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 22:37:39 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:26:07 2005.

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As a matter of fact..I haven't heard much about the BRT program much lately...

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Jul 23 22:41:50 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Thu Jul 21 18:33:55 2005.

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Exactly; the last R143 was 8312; as far as I can tell all of the R160 5-car sets will start with ID numbers that end in 3s and 8s or 2s and 7s, rather than 1s and 6s or 0s and 5s.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 23 22:53:07 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 21:36:17 2005.

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cops are now searching their passengers' bags before embarking, and that's only dreadful to some folks.

You like it when cops search you? I mean, really like it?

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 22:55:16 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 22 15:33:22 2005.

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Only one thread, my dear, only one thread. And it wouldn't have been reefed had you not whined..

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 22:56:45 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 23 22:53:07 2005.

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No, and I suppose nobody likes it, but some are neutral about it, for that matter.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 23:00:16 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 22:55:16 2005.

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Besides, someone here starts joking about ancient Mideastern religions, and, of course, it starts attracting (and annoying) some adherents to other ancient Mideastern religions.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 23 23:06:15 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 22:55:16 2005.

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And it wouldn't have been reefed had you not whined..

Yes it would have been reefed even if I did not point out how stupid it was, precisely because IT WAS SO STUPID and inappropriate.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 23:12:07 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 22:37:39 2005.

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Heh. Like most state projects, the "study groups" haven't finished their donuts in the back of the room yet. :(

http://www.cdtcmpo.org/ny5.htm
http://www.ny5.org/

Meanwhile, the group that John Egan is heading up is WORKING on theirs unlike the ABOVE guys ...

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 23:15:30 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 23 23:06:15 2005.

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Look, I was trying to be provocative and make people think. It provided controversy and it would've made for an interesting discussion had the accusation held more water to it.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 23:16:52 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 23:15:30 2005.

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Hey, comon, please take this matter privately...there's no need to get this thread reefed....there's actually real discussion going on. Thank you.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 23:24:01 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 23:16:52 2005.

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Okay. I guess Roman emperors aren't what railfans are looking for. Or religious history.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 23:29:32 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 23 16:39:11 2005.

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The train operators cab is entirely different from the entire car. the NTT cars suck in the passenger area for AC.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 23:31:29 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 21:54:21 2005.

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MK on the R44s... LOL


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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Ian Lennon on Sat Jul 23 23:31:29 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 21:54:21 2005.

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I thought the R-44 was done in house by 207th Street, ot Coney Island Overhaul Shop.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 23:31:39 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 23:24:01 2005.

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Wow..looks like nothings changed since the lasat time I was here....

By the by..your 100% correct.it has Nothing to do with the TOPIC HEADERS...

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 23:32:54 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by EMSR7000 on Sat Jul 23 19:24:56 2005.

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For the R142A/R143, the HVAC manufacturer is MELCO.
For the R142, the HVAC manufacturer is Bombardier.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 23:33:18 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 23:31:29 2005.

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Yeah...they did manage to rebuilt almost half of them...too bad they didn't do a better job.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 23:33:32 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Ian Lennon on Sat Jul 23 23:31:29 2005.

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They were contracted to be overhauled by MK
for some reason, MK contracted half of them BACK to the MTA for overhaul(I think they made a profit off of this)

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 23:46:56 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 23:33:32 2005.

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Sounds like a nice scam. Contract for some work, then contract it back to the original contractor for a profit. Hey, if the MTA is dumb enough to let you do it ...

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 24 00:15:31 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 23:16:52 2005.

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RickyRab isn't on AIM right now.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 01:05:29 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 20:49:42 2005.

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Why does the A Line Midnights come to mind.
I don't mind the B Div now that I been to all locations. I am mastering how to save time and work around the challeges. I even find time to visit IRT personal and tell them about the B Div since my pay location is still in the Bronx. I find it interesting as we swap storys of what happen in the A and B Div's for the week. It seems like A Div be taken people out of service every week. so It a blessing I'm on the other side.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 01:19:12 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 01:05:29 2005.

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Heh. Well ... there's even more "interesting" tours than the A overnight. That'd be the *E*. :)

But look at the bright side - you'll be sitting up front, thus able to take it all in like a bad television channel. Now contrast and compare to being the monkey in the middle. See? ALL better now! Heh.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by The Port Of Authority on Sun Jul 24 06:22:45 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by joe c on Thu Jul 21 10:50:22 2005.

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Double-leaf doors allow for the end doorway to be wider than it would have been if a single-leaf door was used.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Jul 24 06:30:01 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 12:56:24 2005.

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Double-leaf doors have to be opened with two hands (or else they're much heavier than single-leaf doors). That doesn't leave any hands over to hold onto anything that doesn't slide back and forth.

You said something about safety?

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Jul 24 09:46:52 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Jul 24 06:30:01 2005.

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You only need to open the right door on an 142, but on a set of 142A doors its the left, not the right. Could've these two car manufacturers coordinated on this one? For the frequent 4 train rider, it poses a problem.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 11:29:06 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 01:19:12 2005.

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Haha! Very true no longer do I play PR ( Plublic Relations) man.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 12:41:29 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 11:29:06 2005.

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Heh. That's why I was busting your chops about "being such a *woman!*" ... look at how much TIME you've done in the chain gang already. Once you've done a few years, it gets easier to "do your time in the people's duties." (grin) ... the FIRST three years were long. The NEXT three years will seem like one or less. Just DO it and stop whining. Gird it UP, boy! You'se in MOTORS! If they let UNCA SELKIRK do it, then just imagine what a cruise it'll be for somebody who can HANDLE it! :)

Just watch yer iron, observe those pretty colors bouncing up in your eyeballs from the steel, may all of your days be green over green with no flashing whites. Flashing "customers" on the other hand are no longer YOURS to call in OR your concern. Wave BACK at them! Moo. Heh.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jul 24 12:44:23 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 24 00:15:31 2005.

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so? email. RickyRab79@aol.com

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 12:56:42 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 01:05:29 2005.

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I see you are starting to come to your senses Dave i told you that while going downtown that day stay in the B if you can. Like Unca whould Selkirk say.. Learn how to work a TRUE railroad!.This A Div is just a subway.I may have to go over over there and "visit" for a pick since im taking the Dispacthers Test in December, i have to see how the other side of town works.Greatness requires sacrifice sometimes..

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 13:39:27 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 12:56:42 2005.

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You didn't pay your "licence fees" to Unca Selkoik for the use of "trademarked PRIVATE SECTOR property" ... and since you're with the "circles in donuts under SMITH-9 *must* pay, I', SUING your miserable asses. Hahahahahaha. :)

As a BRONX boy, my dissing of your puny 9 foot "narrow gauge MINING excursion trains" is all too well-intended. A *POX* on "96th - change for the express" ... yeah, RIGHT. Heh.

DEWD! There's an entire SUBWAY out there ... NEVER limit yourself to one boring division. Change of scenery, even if sentenced to it for 9 months, is GOOD! Only wish I'd lasted long enough to "stick a DUECE in my arm." NAH.

JOIN the MTA and SEE the world ... err, ahem ... BROOKLYN. =)

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jul 24 14:12:57 2005, in response to TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Thu Jul 21 01:08:13 2005.

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Beautiful shots!!

Thank you, Trevor!!

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 15:18:40 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 12:56:42 2005.

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I'm also going to take the T/D Exam. I most likely not going to take the job but I want to keep the option open.
I'm learning a lot about the B Div now I have to put my Wish List in. I have no idea where I want to go North,South, or Queens as a home base. Every location exept for Concouse,145,168,57,Astoria and 207 takes me 2 1/2 to 3 Hours to get to.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by vengence on Sun Jul 24 15:26:40 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 13:39:27 2005.

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LOL....

You know..my pops NEVER went over to the IND...

He was a BMT man for as long as I can remember...

The only time I can remember him ever going over there..was once when his KK was hijacked as an F...

Talk about a string of words that I wasn't allowed to say!

Sea Beach..QJ/KK...was his home...as far as I know...untill he retired.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 15:44:43 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sun Jul 24 15:18:40 2005.

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IF you can get 57, that's a HAPPY place to report to ... PLENTY of parking to the east or the west about a block or so past Central Park. Astoria ain't all that terrible either from where YOU'RE coming. The EXTREME north ... heh. You *DID* IRT ... :)

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 15:48:12 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by vengence on Sun Jul 24 15:26:40 2005.

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Pops would have gotten a *FAR* more righteous world had he worked the A or E ... even the ROTTAWAY line ... QUEENS? Yeah, well that bit no matter WHO you were, and the CC was about HIS level of seniority (the fool!) running the damned CIRCLE LINE if he wanted it.

But hey ... folks have their favorite spots, who am *I* to question. But there WERE sweet spots on the IND as long as "arnines" were your friend. SPECIAL DISPENSATION if you WILLINGLY took them out without a G-2 in somebody's face for MAKING you take them out. (grin)

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 24 18:27:09 2005, in response to TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Thu Jul 21 01:08:13 2005.

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Notice that the R-160's are being delivered with the additional grab-irons and footrests (recessed bulkhead ends near the anti-climbers). IIRC, the current R-143 fleet was retrofitted with the additional handholds and footrests, .

I hear the biggest difference between the R-160 and R143's is the end doors that are two sections ala the R-142's (not the storm doors on the 'A' car ends).

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by EMSR7000 on Sun Jul 24 21:25:41 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 23:32:54 2005.

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Since when did Bombardier start making its own A/C equipment? It's probably Stone Safety with Bomb's label slapped on it.
MELCO I know nothing about.

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Re: More R160's To Arrive

Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sun Jul 24 21:29:59 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by EMSR7000 on Sun Jul 24 21:25:41 2005.

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According to NYCTA spec sheets, Bombardier makes it.

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Andrew Kirschner on Mon Jul 25 15:10:27 2005, in response to TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Thu Jul 21 01:08:13 2005.

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Looks almost exactly like the R143. yawn.

--Andrew

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by Metropod on Fri Jul 29 21:01:03 2005, in response to TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by BRT-The Untouchable on Thu Jul 21 01:08:13 2005.

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nice work trevor

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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car

Posted by vengence on Sun Jul 31 17:52:09 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Andrew Kirschner on Mon Jul 25 15:10:27 2005.

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well..outside of that b end view...I'd say they look EXACTLY like them.

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