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Re: 76th Street Station - Photos? |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed May 9 13:03:43 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed May 9 08:02:27 2012. BIG OAF! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 12 08:52:28 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by TERRapin station on Wed May 9 06:55:30 2012. Personal Attack!!!!! |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:54:01 2012, in response to 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 29 11:45:39 2012. photos do exist. seen two. email if you need site. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:54:56 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by xtimx on Sun Apr 29 17:01:00 2012. photo of station does exist. seen two of them. |
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Posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:55:35 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Nyctransitman on Sun Apr 29 21:50:18 2012. seen the photos. do exist. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jun 25 10:16:12 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:54:01 2012. Why the secrecy? Why not list the site openly, if it exists (and has real, non-Photoshopped pictures)? |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 10:56:13 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jun 25 10:16:12 2012. +1. There is absolutely no reason for not disclosing the URL unless the post is bs. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jun 25 11:49:19 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:55:35 2012. That's a fake!!! It's been noted here before. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Jun 25 11:50:15 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 10:56:13 2012. We all know the pics are a fake!!! |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 25 13:13:04 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:54:56 2012. If you have access to them please show them. There are several photos that have been posted that were reputed to be of 76n St but which were proven to be fraudulent. One is the supposed photo of an R-10 at 7 Av/53 St which was photoshopped to look like 76 St and another was actually a photo of a location on London Transport. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jun 25 15:27:53 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 25 13:13:04 2012. And Selkirk I believe once put up a photo of an emergency exit in a tunnel, which almost sort of looked like a platform shell. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 25 15:37:28 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jun 25 15:27:53 2012. I presume that the subway tunnel to 76th Street was part of the Pitkin Ave segment of the IND subway construction. Has anyone ever seen the construction plans for the Pitkin subway, from B'way-ENY to Euclid, and perhaps, beyond? At least there would be some printed basis for this theory! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 25 15:40:14 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by the moose on Sun Jun 24 21:54:56 2012. WWYBYWB? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 15:59:22 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jun 25 10:16:12 2012. It's an urban exploration site. Seen them. The "owners" like to keep it on the down low given all the places they've taken pictures of where nobody's supposed to be. They've been posted here before. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 16:05:57 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jun 25 15:27:53 2012. Yep ... got those from Train Dude a few years back. Posted same at his request. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jun 25 16:11:52 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 15:59:22 2012. Well, I personally have never sen them and I have been on SubChat since its inception and SubTalk before that. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 25 16:37:15 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by randyo on Mon Jun 25 16:11:52 2012. Me, too! What's the big secret, if any??? |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 16:37:21 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 15:59:22 2012. I thought the photos you posted back like 6 years ago were debunked? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 25 16:45:54 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 15:59:22 2012. It's an urban exploration site. Seen them. The "owners" like to keep it on the down low given all the places they've taken pictures of where nobody's supposed to be. They've been posted here before.These? They don't show anything on the "station" side of the wall. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 16:54:01 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 16:37:21 2012. Those ones were given to me by Train Dude, and yes. I was trolled. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 16:55:24 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 25 16:45:54 2012. There ya go ... that's the ones. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 17:27:36 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 16:54:01 2012. Are there others that supposedly are not bogus? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 17:46:45 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 17:27:36 2012. Not that I've seen ... that's the other set that folks were talking about there. Folks didn't normally carry around cameras with them back in the 50's when the location got sealed up. :)But yes, that's the mysterious site and pics OP was talking about. Seen them here before. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 18:02:38 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 17:46:45 2012. They're hardly secret. IINM they've been talked about in the NY media a number of times. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 18:17:44 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon Jun 25 18:02:38 2012. Apparently they were secret to a few in this particular thread. :) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 25 18:58:19 2012, in response to 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 29 11:45:39 2012. This is deja vu all over again. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 25 18:59:08 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 29 14:37:41 2012. My feelings exactly. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 25 19:15:02 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 25 18:59:08 2012. At least it's not "Tear down the Astoria El" . . . |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Mon Jun 25 21:55:44 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 16:55:24 2012. Huh? Those aren't photos of 76 Street. You're wrong again... |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Mon Jun 25 21:56:30 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 18:17:44 2012. Nope. Not secret. And not even relevant. What is wrong with you? |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Mon Jun 25 22:05:21 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jun 25 18:58:19 2012. That's mitch45 for you... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 25 22:22:23 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 25 16:45:54 2012. I'd say that those photos are not what you say that they are but then you'd have to ask the person who took them. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 25 23:52:16 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 16:54:01 2012. Those ones were given to me by Train Dude, and yes. I was |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 25 23:53:39 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 25 23:52:16 2012. Yeah, like I ever went out past Euclid and walked the tunnels out there. No prob ... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:13:36 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by ClearAspect on Tue May 8 17:08:39 2012. Think again. One of the major symptoms of the disorder is the obsessive, repetitive interest in esoteric subjects, lacking any sort of social skills necessary to understand why talking about the same thing over and over isn't acceptable behavior.Exhibit A: Dennis Rigga |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:18:10 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:13:36 2012. Exhibit B: Chipper10Exhibit C: This dude: |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:15:51 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:13:36 2012. did you intentionally forget to add yourself to the figure? |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 08:03:13 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue May 8 14:46:22 2012. He made fun of you, Mitch. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jun 26 10:28:04 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 25 16:45:54 2012. I'd say that those photos are not what you say that they are but then you'd have to ask the person who took them.Are they not of A7 and A8? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 26 10:35:28 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 25 22:22:23 2012. Hey one of those shots look like where i layed up a C train in the Back at Euclid Last Pick...One of those Shots look like A5 an A6 in the relay position.. Or maybe A7 or A8 from the Grant Ave End... |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jun 26 11:18:11 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 25 16:45:54 2012. That site is dope, I didn't know the mezzanine from the Old Courtlandt Street (1) station is still around with the same token booth that was there on 9/11. I always thought it got torn down and removed like everything else at the WTC after 9/11 (Except for the entrance to the (E) at WTC)Also didn't know the TA already rebuilt the platforms for that station, based on the photos it looks pretty much complete but lacking tiles, signs, etc. The photos was dated 2006, kudos to whoever took those photos for showing us whats behind that temparary wall at Courtlandt Street station! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 26 11:20:02 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jun 26 11:18:11 2012. Where is "Old Courtlandt Street"? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 26 17:07:52 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jun 26 10:28:04 2012. I believe that the ones showing cinderblock are A7 and A8 since that is the only place down there where cinderblock was used. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 26 17:31:57 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 25 16:45:54 2012. Thanks. These are cool pix, but they don't show what we don't already know- the tunnels were supposed to go farther than they did. They may even have extended a bit behind the wall..enough, according to some TA veterans on here, to lay up a train or two.But they in no way prove that there was service to 76th Street- or even that there's a station shell there. The fact that signals were installed is no more significant than the fact that some signs ("arden Avenue - Albee Avenue") and even lampposts (really nice M400s that I never saw lit up near I-278. The NYSDOT killed them a few years ago) were installed on some of the never-used sections of the Richmond Parkway in Staten Island. The powers that be (or were) intended to use these sections, got as much doen as they could, and provided for some support infrastructure in the construction contracts. That's all. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 26 17:47:04 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by randyo on Wed May 2 17:36:25 2012. In light of what someone with your long service and knowledge says, I'll have to modify my thoughts a bit and conceed that there may well have been a shell there. But no one has shown me a convinving photo to actually prove it. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 26 17:50:35 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Jun 26 11:18:11 2012. Yeah, they did build a shell there. However, with all the construction that's taken place since then, I think the shell is gone now...when you pass through the area on a #1, you can actually see bits of daylight (if it's daytime) through temporary wooden walls.I guess they built the shell to sort of "placehold" for a station, and not knowing back in 2002 what formt he new WTC would actually take. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 26 17:56:12 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jun 26 10:28:04 2012. You were correct. I misread your comment. They show nothing of the alleged 76th St station. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Tue Jun 26 19:28:59 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 26 17:31:57 2012. The *ONLY* reference to service to 76th was Joe Brennan's April Fool joke 10 years ago. All that I have read otherwise is that the ROW and a station shell were built. I also have a vague recollection of someone who was a m/m long, long ago saying on SubTalk they parked a layup(s?) back there in the 1950s and 1960s. The signals at least as far as The Dirty Wall were lit-up, possibly as late as the 1970s. Anecdotal evidence suggests that there were rails laid at least a short distance beyond The Dirty Wall.Now, whether the construction ended a few feet beyond The Dirty Wall (and accounts of being in a ghost station are invalid) or to 79th (and there was/is a shell) is anyone's guess. I would not discount the latter as we well know that TPTB don't always know what they know or don't know. I strongly doubt there is any kind of conspiracy going on. Many records from construction of the revenue section of the original IND were largely lost, destroyed as no longer necessary, or neglected and gone to seed. Some twit put stuff in the wrong cabinet, then an over-zealous neat freak got rid of them as being expired some time after the decision was made to not continue Pitkin. This happened with the 108th Street "spur" and could well be the same for Pitkin. There was a discussion about how records beyond construction diagrams from the Fulton and Liberty Junction connections were few to be had, even how some key documentation of 63rd Street could not be located when they had to go and rebuild the roadbed. People who insist there is a conspiracy obviously have absolutely no idea what can happen with paper records in an office. If construction to/past 76th did occur and was abruptly halted prior to WWII, that could have well been due to an unforeseen geological or hydrological impediment. Remember: We're talking about 1930s technology which couldn't find a lot of things until you hit them. I would expect the water table in that area to be problematic at depth. If it couldn't be mitigated within the budget, then that certainly would put the kibosh on further construction. If something like that happened, and by the time they were ready to resume construction no new, economically feasible solutions to the problem came along, abandoning it altogether for a path of less resistance would be logical. Fill it in and just forget about it. If someone wants to see if there is/ever was a station shell there, then put your money where your mouth is and get a pro to run some sensors over the street. A tunnel or station shell would have steel reflections from the walls and supports in an undeniable pattern whether it's filled-in or not. Less high tech would be to do a FOIA request of DDOT for street excavation permits issued around there say from 1934-41 and again from 1945-62. There had to have been one or more permits issued for digging up Pitkin at least as far Grant Av where the yard is; those might yield the furthest extent of construction, at least as far as planning went. Anything after 1945 could identify a back-fill project. As far as I'm concerned, unless and until someone goes and does either or both of these things AND posts their findings *INCLUDING* clear scans of the specific documentation, anyone bringing up the subject should be instructed how to use Google to find the old threads about it and advised to undertake a verification effort if they want to contribute something new. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Tue Jun 26 19:45:31 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Tue Jun 26 19:28:59 2012. Like, duhhhhhh! NYCDOT, not DDOT. I have been on the phone and emailing with DDOT so much the last few weeks I have DDOT on the brain. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jun 26 20:35:25 2012, in response to Re: 76th Street Station - Photos?, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 26 17:47:04 2012. Just for the record, anything you see claiming to be 76th Street Station are ALL PHONEY created to drive railfans nuts. |
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