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PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 16:33:43 2011 I caught it returning northbound at Park Ave, Pennsauken. P42AC 4009 was the protect engine.  
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 17:45:18 2011, in response to PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 16:33:43 2011. Very interesting venue; thanks.Did anyone go to 30th Street to see if they ran the ALP-45DP in electric mode there? |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 18:20:13 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 17:45:18 2011. I don't know about its west/south trip, but fifteen minutes after I photographed it in Pennsauken it reversed direction on track 1 at SHORE and returned to MMC. |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 20:45:10 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 18:20:13 2011. Thanks for clarifying.IMV, they bought too many of them. They had better hope they work as well as they keep advertising they will. Funny thing is, something like that would be ideal for a possible Amtrak service to the Lehigh Valley and beyond . . . |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 2 20:47:52 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 20:45:10 2011. You know what else would be ideal for Amtrak, a line from Newark to Allentown and beyond, am I right? |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 21:27:59 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Dec 2 20:47:52 2011. That's what I had in mind. As far as "beyond", at least to Wilkes-Barre via the old LV/CNJ, or to Harrisburg via Reading. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Dec 2 22:26:00 2011, in response to PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 16:33:43 2011. Ugh, it looks like some ungodly hunchback. How did it sound? |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 22:45:24 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Dec 2 22:26:00 2011. Some videos of the AMT ones were posted online earlier this year. They were apparently rather loud; they are a 24-cylinder locomotive in diesel mode after all (whence the E-units?? gimme a new E-unit with twin 12-710s and AC traction motors, eh?), and they run at over double the RPMs of traditional diesels (1900 rpm). |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 3 00:03:57 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 21:27:59 2011. To Scranton via that line, then on to Binghamton via the old DL&W. |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Sat Dec 3 01:51:26 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 17:45:18 2011. RR netters are saying that Amtrak has explicitly stated they are to only be run in diesel mode on their lines, so far...I don't think they've tested E mode, or if they have they found some big problem, because I don't think anyone's seen one yet with the pan up. Scuttlebutt is they don't work very well as diesels... |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 3 02:33:03 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by nasadowsk on Sat Dec 3 01:51:26 2011. Scary stuff.What, no words of praise from "cruiser939" for these beasts? Guess he doesn't want more egg on his face after THAT Tunnel was canceled. That guy has to be the prime example of an arrogant NJT warm body. |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 3 03:37:45 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 22:45:24 2011. I'm dizzy!Waiting for the train to move.............! I will say: a beautiful paint scheme. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Dec 3 08:12:14 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 2 22:45:24 2011. Why are they equipping that thing with two horns?? One for each engine? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Dec 3 08:13:24 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by nasadowsk on Sat Dec 3 01:51:26 2011. What will they do with them if they don't work well? |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Dec 3 08:37:58 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Dec 3 08:12:14 2011. In the region they operate they can not test the horns during overnight inspections (residential area's) to make sure they have a working horn a second spare horn is mounted.both do not work at same time. |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 3 10:49:04 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Dec 3 08:13:24 2011. In such an eventuality, will they sue BBD like Amtrak did over the Acela Express . . . ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 3 10:56:39 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by nasadowsk on Sat Dec 3 01:51:26 2011. The only scuttlebutt I have heard is that they are rather quiet. But we can't judge their performance by just that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 3 18:46:32 2011, in response to PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 16:33:43 2011. Figured I'd link this file from two years ago . . . page 12 has the interior diagrams. (I wonder if page 17 is indicating that the setup in your photos means only diesel mode possible?) |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Dec 3 19:54:23 2011, in response to PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 16:33:43 2011. Nice catch, Bob!! But goodness, that redefines hideous!!! I sure hope it performs better than it looks. |
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Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 3 20:03:47 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Dec 3 19:54:23 2011. There's a lot of hope surrounding that. You're looking at $12 million worth of locomotive on the front of that train in those pix; about a third of that sum was paid for the PL42AC behind it. The $12 million job has two small 12-cylinder diesels and a transformer big enough for a regular electric loco. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 4 12:46:26 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Dec 3 19:54:23 2011. It's the Kid of passenger locomotives.
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 4 13:12:11 2011, in response to PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by chuchubob on Fri Dec 2 16:33:43 2011. One oddity I am noting: the PL42 cannot clear the Hudson River tunnels into NYP, but the ALP-45 can, yet this ALP-45 looks to be as tall, if not taller, than the PL42. How can the dual mode meet clearance minimums, while the PL42 cannot? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 4 13:15:09 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 4 13:12:11 2011. Apparently it's a matter of inches. Maximum height of the PL42AC is 15' 2", IIRC; most of that the exhaust. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Dec 4 14:31:43 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 4 13:12:11 2011. from picture angle you don't see fans and other things sticking out over PL42ac's hoodMax height in NYP is 14' 6" , only a few inches more will clear but will cause Catenary to arc and ground via locomotive. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Dec 4 14:33:46 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 4 12:46:26 2011. Heh, House Party was just one IFC a few days ago. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Dec 5 11:12:32 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: NJT ALP-45DP 4500 tested on ACL Friday, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Dec 3 08:12:14 2011. One is in French. |
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