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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011 Ah the R42. The last product built by the St Louis Car Company that actually worked and star of the 1971 hit movie The French Connection. Once slated for retirement 50 of the 400 cars got a reprieve when the abysmal quality of the following St Louie produced R44's forced their early retirement. Today those final 50 escaped to the IND Eastern Division where they tend to work in the peak periods only. If you need a railfan window and if you can find them, maybe you too can ride, the R42.Seeing as I don't live in the city the only way for me to get there in time is to take Amtrak into Newark, PATH it downtown then run to the J/Z at Fulton Street. Even with this plan the timing was going to be close as I would only be able to catch the last one or two R42 trainsets returning from their rush hour runs to Broad. Even if I was to catch them they would certainly pull back into East New York yard to wait their return to service for the evening peak. I arrived at Fulton in what I believed was planet of time, but alas trainset after trainset of useless R160s passed by until I assumed that the morning was a wash and I might as well continue on in an inferior vehicle, de-training for the photos I needed. To see what happened after that you can check out the full photo set posted right here, or keep reading below. I was to meet Rich Green that day, who in usual fashion was running late, so instead of meeting downtown I just hopped off at Marcy Ave which was closer to where he would be coming from. Due to the Williamsburg Bridge and the HSBC bank dome its pretty hard not to take good pics at Marcy, even if they involve R160's, such as this westbound J train.  Headed my way on an M train was another train of of the new sterile beasts.  Trains stopping at Marcy get to have the motormen play tower operator using this punch box where they can choose a local or express routing.  Just as I was resigned to an entire day of mediocre subway fanning low and behold what trundles down the Willy B ramp, but a shiny train of retro sheek R42's on a K routing. I couldn't believe my eyes and I thanked god that Rish was late least I would have ended up on the previous R160 I had been riding.  Once on board the front view was a bit disappointing due to both the position of the sun and a good layer of water droplet scuz. However it was far superior to the smear-o-vision on the R160's, one of which is seen here on an express J train headed westbound south of Mrytle Ave.  Everybody loves Myrtle Ave with its pair of single slip switches and diamond crossing.  Assuming I was now on the laast leg of the trip in this trainset I opted for some video out the front as that was impacted by the backlighting less. However as we approached Broadway Junction I noticed that my original R160 trainset was sitting on the middle track and we were to platform on the usual eastbound track. In an absolutely startling turn of events, while staring at a Clear indication on the 356 signal I watched as the trainset that should have consisted of R42 pull into the yard, while my trainset, which should have been R160s was allowed to continue on towards the Jamaica Center.  To add insult to the R160 injury my R42 mockingly passed by it as it descended down the ramp to wait out that day's service in the yard. Departing 121St St we passed through a work zone where the tracks and turnouts of the interlocking there were being updated with new rails and ties. We continued on approaching the LIRR main where an M-7 train was headed eastbound and then dove into the new tunnel segment on approach to Stuphin Blvd. Of course we rode the R42 set all the way to Jamaica Center where Rich and I then decided to, what else, ride it back. Moreover the backlighting would no longer be a problem so I could go back to taking still photos. Here we are heading back through 121st St interlocking showing the switches under replacement.  Here we see an R160 trainset cresting the Montauk Line flyover.  El structure painting near 85th St.  Another eastbound R160 J set departing Cypress Hills.  Here we see an R160 J train passing eastbound through the Crescent St interlocking.  On approach to Broadway Junction at Alabama Ave.  Clear indication on the 342 signal at the west end of Broadway Junction interlocking while an R160 trainset passes by.  Yawn...another R160 J train this time on the 3-track section at Gates Ave.  If you were wondering yes indeed there will be a Video post associated with this trip, but this one clip really stands out above the others. Here traveling from Kosciuszko St to Myrtle Ave our J train makes a perfect connection with an inbound M train. We take the center express track as the m train pulls into the side track on via the tight single slip switch from the Myrtle Ave El. It's a perfect meet and a perfect video shot. The sort of thing that is only possible with a railfan window. After the morning's R42 round trip I had no reason to hang around to attempt to catch a similar trainset in the afternoon so after lunch I took a little SIR ride then decided to call it a day and head back to Newark Penn to catch the first outbound express. Of course this would involve another PATH trip and I was lucky enough to catch what turned out to be my last trip on a PA-1/4. Regulations be dammed I just had to make sure that this WTC to Exchange Place ride was preserved for posterity. Unfortunately PATH got me into Newark just late enough so missed the connection with the NJT express by about 30 seconds. Forced to wait for the next one I snapped a few photos such as ALP-46 #4610.  And Amtrak AEM-7 #904.  Which was hauling a Keystone set with Budd Metroliner #9638 on the rear.  I'll finish things off with this shot of Vickers PATCO car #291 departing the Haddonfield station.  Stay tuned for a special video segment probably posted sometime tomorrow. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Oct 29 15:58:30 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. excellent photos |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Oct 29 17:24:31 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Very good catches there! |
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Posted by zac on Sat Oct 29 18:06:26 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Nice pics. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Oct 29 18:16:47 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. A+ for u Jersey Mike on da pictures and videos.chud1 |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 18:20:08 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by 3-9 on Sat Oct 29 17:24:31 2011. Yeah, I'm so used to getting shit on with this kind of thing. Nice to tick off a checkbox with only one trip into the city. Now all I need to do if find some Mid-Day M-3s on the LIRR. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 30 10:24:37 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Interesting! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 30 11:10:03 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Nice shooting!! :-)However, one correction, it is not the IND Eastern Division, it is the BMT Eastern Division. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 30 11:11:36 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 30 11:10:03 2011. Mike......Who's that character in the brown shirt in the 4th photo?? He looks damn familiar!! :-D LOL |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 30 11:25:28 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 18:20:08 2011. Now all I need to do if find some Mid-Day M-3s on the LIRR.Hit Forest Hills or Kew Gardens stations, even Woodside after 9 or 10 am on any weekday. You might see a few deadheading back to Hillside Yard or Dunton Yard (opposite Jamaica, under the AirTrain ROW), plus catch some heading into Penn. Friday, I observed a 6-car M-3 (of course when I did not have a camera) heading into the Atlantic Avenue Tunnel westbound towards Brooklyn passing Morris Park Yard. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 30 17:02:49 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Luck you ! Did you just stand around and sweat it out for an R42 to show up, or are they regularly assigned to certain trains ? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 30 17:19:54 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. I didn't realize they were replacing the crossover at 121st. Not sure why. It was only installed in 1987 and since Dec 1988 has hardly been used.Nice pics. You sped right past my apartment. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 17:48:41 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 30 17:02:49 2011. First, if you read the text included with the pictures it would have answered your question :-P Second, you can assume that most ENY pull-in trains in the peak periods will be an R42. So you look at the schedule for the pull-in trains and then just get to a J/Z station before the last one is scheduled to depart. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 30 18:32:42 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. These pictures are beautiful. However, you're lucky Moe didn't come along and cite you for taking a close-up pic of that punch-box.When I was in DC on Friday, I was politely asked at Benning Road (which is out-of-the-way) what I was taking pictures of. I politely responded that I was a friend of Transit and these pictures were of general subject matter - i.e. public areas - and the employee then said that I was OK as long as I did not focus on "structural areas". I left without incident, and after sharing some the pics I had already in the can (I was somewhere around 115 or so by that time) I was bidden a safe and pleasant trip by the other party. wayne |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 19:04:31 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 30 18:32:42 2011. Moe? |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 30 19:24:37 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 19:04:31 2011. By that I meant a Transit employee. We're referring the naming convention to Steve B for his review.wayne |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 30 19:46:41 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Why is Haddonfield in a trench? |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 20:22:22 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 30 19:46:41 2011. An elevated structure would have been both unsightly and resulted in unacceptable grades for the non-PATCO trains which used to have a tough climb as it was up from the Delair Bridge branch at Vernon when the tracks were at street grade level. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 20:22:47 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Oct 30 19:24:37 2011. Oh I got bitched at later, but that's a story for the video post. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 30 21:28:24 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 30 17:02:49 2011. There's still an R42 that makes the rounds during midday. I've seen it reach Essex Street going southbound at around 11AM, give or take 10-15 min.OTOH, about a week and a half ago I saw another set of OOS R42's heading away from ENY to who-knows-where. I hope it was just going for maintenance, not for scrapping. |
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Posted by The I MAN on Sun Oct 30 21:37:02 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Great job! 23 years on and I still wonder why timers are needed in the tunnel. They will probably have them on Second Ave too, if and when it opens. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 23:31:39 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 30 21:28:24 2011. 11am is about the time my R42 set got back to Broad St. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 31 06:59:04 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. GREAT stuff!! Thanks for posting. The Broadway/Jamaica/ Myrtle remnant is, IMO, the best railfan stretch in the city. The Rockaway and Flushing Lines are cool, but the Eastern Division is best!!You get to see the 100+ year old buildings, you can see how 1950-60s "urban renewal" cut accross the urban landscape, you got the views at Marcy Ave...just great!! |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Oct 31 11:33:16 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 31 06:59:04 2011. Thank you. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Oct 31 11:39:31 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Awesome pictures! Wow, it didn't seem so long ago when the R42s were a mainstay on the J train. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Nov 1 00:15:16 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 30 23:31:39 2011. Heh, unfortunately the scheduling of the ~11AM R42 has become unstable since you rode it. Sometimes it disappeared, though recently it seems to have come back. Can't guarantee it this time though, since I haven't been able to look for it enough during the time period I'm assuming it appears. |
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Posted by South FERRY on Tue Nov 1 12:37:41 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. So much awesomeness in this post!! THANK YOU!!! |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 1 17:03:47 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Oct 31 11:39:31 2011. They have had a presense on the QJ, JJ, and J for 42 years now, longer than any other equipment, except for the Standards.It is entirely conceivable that overhauled R32's could replace R42's before the R179's come, though the R32 never got past Alabama Avenue for ENY lay-ups until early 1968. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 1 17:09:47 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 30 17:19:54 2011. Their capital spending priorities never cease to amaze me. |
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Posted by jamaica local on Fri Nov 4 12:12:47 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Great pix of my first & favorite train line and the most perfectly proportioned NYCTA railcar ever built. |
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Posted by John c on Tue Nov 8 06:24:29 2011, in response to PHOTOS: R42 ROUND TRIP, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Oct 29 14:38:54 2011. Thanks for the pictures. I did two trips on the J during my visit to New York in September. On both days there was a set of R42 on the J before the afternoon rush started but not on the same turn. Perhaps the plan is to keep one set out all day to ensure the train crew have regular trips on them? |
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