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PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display |
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Posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011 National Train Day is this Saturday. Amtrak invited Juniata Terminal to display their PRR train at Chicago and their SW1500/slug set at 30th Street.Tuesday: logo on SW1500 9275  getting ready to deliver equipment to Amtrak: 5711 is on Conrail's Fairhill Yard lead while the cars are on the Juniata Terminal Company yard lead  shoving on Conrail's Delair Branch to the connection with Amtrak at Frankford Junction; only the E8's were running    Wednesday morning at Penn Coach Yard    passing through Narberth on the former PRR Main Line, now Amtrak's Keystone Corridor  
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Posted by arnine on Wed May 4 15:05:30 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Awesome pics again and again I tip my hat to you and thank you :) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed May 4 15:10:44 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Oh my goodness!!!!! I'm so disappointed I can't make it this year... :( |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 15:10:49 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. FRACK!I was thinking of doing another SEPTA jaunt today, and it would probably have included a ride out on the old R5. The weather dissuaded me. Nice catch. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 15:26:39 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Really nice work, Bob!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed May 4 15:27:57 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by arnine on Wed May 4 15:05:30 2011. more great pictures chuchubob.chud1 |
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Posted by kp5308 on Wed May 4 18:02:37 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Good 'uns! |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 4 18:34:17 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Superb work as always, Bob! |
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Posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 18:53:13 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Superb shots! I wish I could have been there to hear the sound of normally aspirated 567's (two of them in each E8A) in run 8. Much nicer than today's turbocharged engines which sound more like electric motors than diesels. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed May 4 19:33:56 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. 5711 is all that and then some Terrific work, Bob, and thanks as always for sharing... |
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Posted by kp5308 on Wed May 4 21:31:39 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 18:53:13 2011. normally aspirated 567'sThey both have the 645 heads in the 567 block. From Preston Cook: The 567C Engines The 567C introduced a completely new crankcase with round handhole covers, that eliminated the water deck feature of the earlier engines and used a water manifold in the air box with jumpers to distribute coolant to the cylinder liners. It was produced in 2, 6, 8, 12 and 16 cylinder versions. The 567C engines are very versatile and durable engines, and most of the service parts are still readily available. The most significant concern in the long run is that there will be diminishing availability and increasing price of 567C cylinder liners and pistons. It is possible to use 645 cylinder power assembly components in a 567C engine, this required changing the camshaft counterweights. The change must be done in complete engine sets or there will be significant vibration problems. If a 567C engine has been upgraded to 645 power assembly components, it is likely to be a viable engine to operate for many years into the future. The considerations for the 567D1 (roots blower) engine used in the GP18, GP28, SD18, SD28, RS1325, and late production FL9 locomotives are generally the same as for the 567C. This change was made when Amtrak rebuilt the engines. In addition these E's have a 2500 gallon fuel tank & D77 traction motors. I was lucky enuff to work on 2 other ex-PRR E's that went thru the same program:  |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 21:47:11 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 18:53:13 2011. I wish I could have been there to hear the sound of normally aspirated 567sNo such thing as a normally-aspirated two-stroke diesel. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 22:31:26 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by kp5308 on Wed May 4 21:31:39 2011. Thanks for the info. I knew that the Juniata Terminal engines once belonged to Conrail and were used to power their business train. I didn't know that before that Amtrak owned them but I would guess that was when Amtrak began service in 1971. I think that PRR had the most E8's of any railroad. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 22:42:57 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 21:47:11 2011. You are correct; they are supercharged (roots-blower) as opposed to turbocharged as on modern diesels. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 4 23:02:29 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 22:42:57 2011. Used for exhaust scavenging. I'm fond of the sound myself, since most of the EMD diesels of CIE had them. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Thu May 5 07:11:43 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by murray1575 on Wed May 4 22:31:26 2011. that was when Amtrak began service in 1971.Amtrak's last 4 E's, all ex-PRR were leased to Metro North in 1984. When they came off lease in '85 they were put up for auction with Conrail picking up AMTK 498/499, Andy Muller Jr. buying 497 & Jeff Seidel Jr purchasing 495. IIRC Illinois Centrtal Gulf did the rebuilds. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu May 5 07:14:13 2011, in response to PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by chuchubob on Wed May 4 15:00:45 2011. Outstanding shots of a beautiful train!!! :-)Definitely making me wanna venture further south along the NJ Turnpike and I-95, Bob!!! :-) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu May 5 09:36:23 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu May 5 07:14:13 2011. C'mon down! A great system of rails await you, TMP. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 5 12:23:27 2011, in response to Re: PHOTOS: PRR/Juniata Terminal equipment for NTD display, posted by kp5308 on Thu May 5 07:11:43 2011. I thought NJT got Amtrak's last E8's. They were still active on their roster until the first GP40FH's arrive in 1986-7. |
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