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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:30:01 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 00:55:20 2010. Agreed, while I respect the police, I admit they have gone way overboard, and yes 6 cops for a photographer is kind of overkill, and even one or two cops, for something as innocent as that, it really is too much, and what is worse is how the cop lied on the summonse stating how Fred used profanity when he didn't (in NY State, for an official to do that constitutes perjury).Sigh, and SMFH!!! :-( |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:38:08 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:00:03 2010. Whoa, whoa, whoa now. You definitely have a double standard here. Why isn't there more to this story as there are with other peoples stories? Were you there? How do you know Fred wasn't surly with the cops? You are giving Fred a lot of leeway here that you never gave Nilet and others.I certainly am being negative with you on this. You posted long ago that Fred, Peter Ehrlich and others never get confronted by the police. I have photographed with Peter several times and we have been stopped more than once. I was with Fred on a Nostalgia Trip / MoD trip and Fred was stopped at Coney Island by the police. What about the Rail Magazine people at Broad Channel. You never gave them the benefit of the doubt like you just gave Fred. They must have done something wrong? What if Fred had this hassle with one of your favorite Metro North Cops? Would there then be another side to this story? I've singled you and Jeff Rosen (Who stated that he would have smashed Nilet's camera if he were still a cop), because you guys never think that the cops do anything wrong. There are others out there too that would never give Nilet the benefit of the doubt, but Fred never does anything wrong. Are you threatening me with a flood of spam mails? I've heard that you like to do that when people upset you. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:39:02 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Dec 27 23:45:43 2010. Only because Nilet didn't write it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 28 13:41:30 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Dec 27 21:45:36 2010. I've never had a problem on SEPTA. Guess I have a harmless face. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:42:16 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Mon Dec 27 18:11:28 2010. I totally agree. I just started a discussion with Train Paul at the end of this thread. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 13:44:05 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 28 11:37:22 2010. As character witnesses... |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:51:19 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:38:08 2010. Are you threatening me with a flood of spam mails? I've heard that you like to do that when people upset you.I do not know to whom and where you have heard that stupidity/lie from, but I suggest you put that to rest!! I am hardly checking email as it is now, much less sending back email, even more less spam or such idiocy!! Again, ease back with this unprovoked stupidity. And Fred G, as I stated, has more integrity than most here. And the Metro-North cops (the "favorites" as you state) have an account of people you guys mention here as same as you guys yourselves comment about. And I never said they do not get confronted, I say I don't because I DON'T!!! Why is that??? I nor anyone will ever know, and contrary to popular belief, I DO NOT carry my ID on my when I am off duty, and the one time I had my ID on me was when I had to head downtown to GCT to conduct some railroad business before I went on duty, and I graciously read the Riot Act to someone who claimed to be an off duty corrections officer when he stated how photography is illegal!! And I never had any issues otherwise, not by NYPD, MTA PD, or any PD regardless of where I been!! because you guys never think that the cops do anything wrong Please present proof where I, at anytime, claimed or stated this!! I have on plenty of occasions shunned officials at any rank for the stupidity of harassing photographers when photography is perfectly legal!!!! The ones who stories I have questioned are people who seem to have problems all the time, and from the accounts of NYPD people I have spoken to along with officers from NJT PD, MTA PD and even Amtrak PD is that railfans are often quick to become very belligerent and hostile when even simply questioned, nothing more. Why isn't there more to this story as there are with other peoples stories? Were you there? How do you know Fred wasn't surly with the cops? You are giving Fred a lot of leeway here that you never gave Nilet and others. Are thinking he was surly with them??? Are you thinking he did get hostile with them??? Can you give me a reason why not to give him leeway as much as those here who has posted questionable stories of harrassment??? |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:55:07 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 13:42:16 2010. And again, Fred G's integrity is more strong than most here. And again, I do not sympathize with police, nor side with them. And at this point, I care not for if there was anything more, as all I care is that when I am out, I have no problems, and I sympathize with those who do have problems, and if ever should one arise, I know how I will conduct myself. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Tue Dec 28 14:03:45 2010, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010. You are lucky that you live through this to tell the story!! Another cop would have.......... |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Dec 28 14:04:53 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 00:50:16 2010. Again .......... there needs to be a group of people doing this very thing get this on the network news media show the nation what a bunch of assholes these people really are. Karl M |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 28 14:06:03 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Dec 28 14:04:53 2010. Few people care that rail geeks are having problems pursuing their hobby. Most think said hobby is weird, and that we should get girlfriends and move out of mom's basement. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:10:18 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:51:19 2010. From Fred's account....."Let's see a badge" I sez. We all got on the train where he produced a badge. Ok fine, he's a cop. And he continues this tirade where I didn't have authorization to take photos. Jersey Mike heard this and added that that wasn't true. I told the officer to call a cop on us if that's the case.Let's see a badge, & call a cop on us. If Nilet had said the same thing what would you say? You have a double standard that you refuse to admit. |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Tue Dec 28 14:15:59 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:30:01 2010. Why is it not perjury when done in PEN(N)? |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:16:26 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:10:18 2010. If the guy didn't readily identify himself as a cop, he is within his right to ask, especially in this day and age of people impersonating cops and committing crimes as a result.Nilet was confronted by uniformed cops, and ones who identified themselves. Had the person just approached him and not identified himself as a cop and not shown ID, I would not have ever said a word of wrong against that, or anyone who requests the same. Again, in this day and age of official impersonation, and crimes being committed against people as a result, you are, and we all are, within our right to ask. Again, there is no double standard, and again Fred G has much more integrity here than the people you have mentioned, and as far as the Railfan and Railroad editor issue, I did shun the actions of the officers trying to enforce something that does not exist. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:17:49 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Transitbuff on Tue Dec 28 14:15:59 2010. I am no aware of the rules and policies of other government agencies. I know here in New York, both city and state, it is perjury for an officer to falsify any part of a summonse or ticket, be it traffic or any summonse of any offense. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:19:34 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 13:51:19 2010. Maybe if Fred had followed your advice this wouldn't have happened. Maybe the cop thought Fred was being a smart alec. But wait Fred can't be a smart alec. I'm glad you know who is a smart alec and who isn't.You said don't resort to smart alec comments. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Dec 28 14:20:14 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 11:31:12 2010. And I'll back you too Fred. Karl M |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:24:58 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:19:34 2010. It is not "smart-alecky" to ask for identification, and even ask for, or even call yourself, the police or additional officer(s) to come in order to be sure the person you are talking to is indeed a police officer, in fact law enforcement even encourages people to contact the police if stopped if they are unsure of the person really being an officer, or if possible head to a police precinct. It is not being a smart alec, it is being smart, PERIOD!!! Nowadays, again with the constant crimes being committed by people impersonating officials, it is smart to be sure who you are dealing with actually an official that they state they are. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:25:50 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:16:26 2010. Why didn't you put this disclaimer in your response to this thread? Just another example of your double standard.Much we know from the story, but do remember there are accounts of this we do not know about, and there are other sides of this story. Let us see where this goes, and what more comes out, and then make judgments. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:31:13 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:24:58 2010. So you take the word of a man you have never met in person, and know only because of a chat room that he is telling the truth? Wow. What are your opinions of Salaam Allah? Is he as polite as Fred? |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:31:45 2010, in response to War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 27 17:57:43 2010. He chose to bring this up, not me, let the record show!!!"Much we know from the story, but do remember there are accounts of this we do not know about, and there are other sides of this story. Let us see where this goes, and what more comes out, and then make judgments." Ask and you shall receive, Richard!! |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Dec 28 14:32:50 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 28 14:06:03 2010. But in THIS case there's no evidence this person was a rail buff, just someone carrying a camera bag and being harassed for it THIS should be protested by a group demanding a stop to this action, how long before we get padded down for crossing over the GW bridge.Karl M |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:33:21 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:31:13 2010. So are you saying I should say Fred is guilty, in the wrong, the cops are right???? Just because I never met him in person, are you saying that all here who speak good of him are liars???? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 28 14:35:23 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Dec 28 14:32:50 2010. I know. Welcome to modern America. Loose lips sink ships. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:36:31 2010, in response to At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:31:45 2010. Thank you for being Fair and Balanced. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:37:58 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:31:13 2010. Furthermore, I was not going to address anything more in this thread than extending my apologies to Fred for having to go thru such stupidity, and say nothing more than that.YOU brought me into this at the level we are at now by bringing my name in, resorting to name-calling, and refraining from keeping your mouth shut on the matter unless I or someone else said something of this incident. Rather than just leave things alone, you made them what they are here. I was gonna say nothing more than an apology that he had to go thru that, nothing more nothing less. You made this into something it should not have developed into. I respect your photographic talents, and your opinions, but I do not respect this approach you took here. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:42:12 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:36:31 2010. I was not going to say ANYTHING WHATSOEVER but an apology to Fred for having to have to go thru the stupidity of the incident and a trip to court for it, all of it unnecessary and seemingly out of line big time. You are the one who got me involved by bringing my name into this, plus resorting to the tactics of others with unnecessary namecalling and putting words into people's mouths. If I wanted to say that in this thread, I would have. But again, I said nothing and your unnecessary comments and namecalling and snap judgments brought this all to be.Just let it go, dude. I had no intention of saying your quoted comment I sad from a further back post, or anything other than an apology and to sympathize. Your namecalling was and is uncalled for, and you could have saved the commentary for IF I chose to state same or such. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Dec 28 14:52:36 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 28 14:35:23 2010. LOL. Karl M |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:53:00 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:33:21 2010. Of course Fred is not guilty, that was the whole point. Neither was Nilet which was the other point. You and so many others here have vilified Nilet in the past and have now given Fred the benefit of the doubt. I am just bringing up the double standard that I see.BTW Fred is a much better person than he is a photographer. Yes, I have met him. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 14:59:34 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:37:58 2010. You didn't have to take the bait. Good luck in your photography ventures too. I am truly jealous that you have never had to go through the police hassles that most of us had to endure. Take care, keep shooting, and have a Happy New Year. |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 15:06:16 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:42:12 2010. I didn't think I called you anything that bad. I'm sorry if i offended you.
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Tue Dec 28 15:07:17 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 11:32:47 2010. Can we take pictures? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 15:11:58 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 15:06:16 2010. Well staying COMPLETELY on the sidelines for the latest go around, let me just add this moral to the story:"If this can happen to Fred, it's quite obvious this can happen to ANYONE one here". |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Tue Dec 28 15:12:38 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 11:58:59 2010. Because they have to deal withUgggh! I said it. Now I need a shower! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 15:15:39 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Dec 28 11:58:59 2010. Because many people live paycheck to paycheck - jury duty pay does not cover rent and mortgage payments.My dad depended heavily on tip income at the time - even if his job continued his base pay it would not have been sufficient to pay the bills. |
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Posted by 5119 on Tue Dec 28 15:29:12 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by arnine on Mon Dec 27 21:59:47 2010. Wait a minute!It's easy to arrest a photographer than to handle a pipe welder. Some badge wearing somebody might get hurt. You know aphotographer won't fight back. However a man welding a pipe????? Like kicking a Yorkie as opposed to kicking a 150 pound Rottweiler. |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Tue Dec 28 15:29:28 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by EastSideRider on Mon Dec 27 19:27:33 2010. I know I should never lump in all of Philly. As a matter of fact (I live in Allentown, not too far from Philly) with the current Mayor Nutter running the place, I think this is the best I've se of the city in years. The hsitory of Philly parallels that of my own home town, the South Bronx. The city has lost businesses, manufacturing companies and population. There are many neighborhoods that are abandoned, just look near Temple U's campus from SEPTA's line there. Anyway, I just wish SEPTA was a better transit partner with it's own city and with the surrounding area. They need more clout to get more funds from where ever they can. They also need to kick Hyundai Rotem in the ass and start charging them for being late. |
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Posted by 5119 on Tue Dec 28 15:32:31 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:17:49 2010. But they still get away with it. How many officers have assualted peaceful demonstrators, causing injuries, yet got away with it. |
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Posted by 5119 on Tue Dec 28 15:36:39 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 07:27:06 2010. Absolutely! |
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Posted by kp5308 on Tue Dec 28 15:40:28 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 15:06:16 2010. That's GREAT! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 16:06:40 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Dec 28 05:40:34 2010. Certain people have reputations and the way in which they conduct themselves suggests that they agitate the cops and make matters worse for themselves.But my point also is that the fact that a cop tells someone to stop taking pictures or that photography is not permitted in and of itself is unacceptable. The very fact that a cop interferes with photography is offensive even if the photographer politely obeys and leaves and no further confrontation occurs. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 16:08:51 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 14:17:49 2010. Cops testilie all the time and get away with it |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 28 16:30:39 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 16:06:40 2010. Just write down the time and place, and the office's badge number, and file a complaint with the police department.
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 16:32:28 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 15:11:58 2010. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 28 16:36:15 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 28 15:11:58 2010. You just have to diffuse the situation with some feminine charm. Works for me all the time ;) |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 28 16:43:14 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Dec 28 12:52:07 2010. Given the new Pennsylvanian governor will not be pro-transit, and not the least bit sympathetic with SEPTIC's management, he should be made aware of their ineptitude as well. The only thing they will wake up to is a whack to the operatring subsidies as a direct result of wasting operating money and time on these Keystone cop shenanigans. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Dec 28 17:14:15 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 27 21:52:32 2010. Really? That's very interesting. Even right before 9/11 (and I mean just about RIGHT BEFORE - it was during the transit festival at Hoboken that year) I was taking pictures (or trying to anyway, dead batteries) in PATH, indiscriminately, without any hassle. A couple of the employees even waved! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 28 17:26:25 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 28 16:36:15 2010. AFAIK, you are the only Subchatter who has that tool in their kit.:-) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 28 17:31:08 2010, in response to Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 28 16:30:39 2010. And all you get in return is the stupid "9-11 form letter" that tries to justify the cop's actions. "In these times...bullshit..bullshit..and more bullshit..."OTOH confrontations that led to arrests have led to court orders and consent agreements against police departments. Photographers who play nice have lost valuable photo shoot opportunities but those who fight back have won real money and guarantees! Railfans are not the only ones being harassed. Just look at what happened to the Daily News reporter who tried to file a report about yesterday's airport delays. He went to file a complaint with the Port Authority and was told that they would confiscate his press credentials if he complained. The Daily News and the National Press Photographers Association are FUMING mad and are going to go to court over this! |
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Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Tue Dec 28 17:54:40 2010, in response to Re: At Richard Panse's Request......Re: War On Photography Continues In Philly, posted by Amanda on Tue Dec 28 16:36:15 2010. Haha. I actually charmed my way into taking some PCC pictures at Grove St in Newark one day by smiling at a female NJT worker and chatting her up. She probably had poor eyesight now that I think of it. LOL |
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