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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 10 18:33:41 2010, in response to Re: 9/10/77, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 10 18:16:37 2010. The thing that was dumb about Jamaica was that it was allowed to be abandoned on just the promise of a subway. If they had let it run just 11 more years, it wouldn't have been as tragic, as the subway finally came 11 years later, although it should have also been at least one more station to replace the length of the old el.It was entirely stupid to abandon it in the middle of no where at Queens Blvd station. Even more asinine was a couple years later at 121st St. If they "had" to do the unthinkable, and abandon it, it should have remained to Sutphin Blvd Station to keep the LIRR transfer alive. And it should have remained there until Archer opened, or at least until the very final end when it had to be connected to the El at 121st St. They realigned the entire Atlantic Ave el structure on the L and kept it running right to the end, and 80 years earlier rebuilt the entire Broadway El, northern Myrtle El, and part of the Fulton El all in place while service continued to run.....so there's no reason they couldn't have kept the el running to Sutphin while the Archer connection was made. In any event, yes, the third Ave el was a tragedy that it was removed. It should have been connected to the Lexington Ave line, and instead of there being a Pelham local and a Pelham express, there should have been two Lexington Ave locals, the 6 and the 8, with maximum headways allowable on Lexington Ave local (it wouldn't have effected any of the Lexington Ave riders, as the only difference for them would be that instead of all 6's there would be divided between 6 and 8's. And when the Second Ave subway finally got built, the connection of one or the other to the SAS, let's say Lexington local going to third Ave line, and the SAS going to the Pelham line (which is built to BMT standards under dual contracts anyway). The only reason I would send the Lexington Local to Third Ave is because I don't think that el was dual contracts, and had to remain IRT. |
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