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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 7 08:15:30 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 7 00:04:10 2010. So you would rather have the Queens Boulevard line overcrowded than to ease over crowding along the L line?HOW is this "overcrowding the Queens Blvd line"? It does no such thing, the same amount of trains will run there as now. So you would rather have the Queens Boulevard line overcrowded than to ease over crowding along the L line? This goes WAY beyond Essex/Delancy...I guess it's time for the paste again: But first off, you only need to stand at Myrtle-Wyckoff or Essex-Delancy to see that there is a really demand for midtown service. The transfer at Delancy is obvious, but as an M rider for 20 years, I can tell you that the only reason anyone uses all those stairs at Myrtle-Wyckoff is because they want MIDTOWN. Currently, the L is bursting at it's seams, and is the fastest growing line in the system each year for the last decade. The MTA needs to be looking at ways to keep M riders off the L, and on their own line, which would be done if it went where many of them want to go. This goes way beyond the transfer at Essex Delancey. The reason M riders abandon their train at Wyckoff (more than half of them, and there are even people that reverse ride from Knickerbocker and Central to Wyckoff to transfer too) is because the THREE seat ride with the M/L/and some other L transfer line on 14th St is faster than taking the M all the way down to Nassau for the M's corresponding transfer. The Nassau line connects to just about every line, however, you have to go all the way down just to come back up again, and that's where people avoid it. 6th Ave Line - M riders destined for the 6th Ave line have the obvious improvement, but let me tell you, it goes way beyond the Essex Delancey transfer. 8th Ave Line - M riders currently get off at Wyckoff, for the L, (and a three seat Ride) and transfer at 8th Ave, as opposed to takint the M all the way down to Fulton St to get the A/C there. With the M/V combo line, they would have a very attractive, and easy transfer at West 4th St instead, thus making a convenient 2 train ride, as opposed to a three seat ride with the L, or the roundabout route all the way down to Fulton just to come back up. Lexington Ave Line - M riders currently get off at Wyckoff, for the L (three seat ride) and transfer for the Lex at Union Square, as opposed to the M all the way down to Chambers to get the Lex, and then have to take it all the way up agaian. However, with an M/V combo train, and once the Broadway-Lafayette-Bleecker connection is completely finished, they will have an attractive 2 seat ride option right there, thus making it more attractive than the 3 seat L/Wyckoff and Union Square option, and certainly more attractive than going all the way down to Chambers just to go back up again. Broadway Line - M riders currently get off the M at Wyckoff (for the L and a three seat ride), and transfer for the Bway line at Union Square, which is faster than going all the way down to Canal St just to go back up again.... But with the M/V combo train, in a one seat ride going to the 6th Ave line, many of those riders will stay on the M, as the Bway Line's destinations in Midtown are very similar to the 6th Ave line's destinations, and a 1 seat ride is certainly superior to the current 3 seat ride set up they use with the L involved. 7th Ave Line - M riders currently get off the M at Wyckoff for a three seat ride with the L to transfer at 6th Ave/14th for the 7th Ave line, as opposed to taking the roundabout Nassau line all the way down to Fulton (and a PITA transfer there). And they will still have to trabsfer at 6th Ave/14th to get the 7th Ave line, however, they will be able to do it in a 2 seat ride instead of the L's three seat ride. And this is GOOD for everyone, as the L is bursting at it's seams, and anything that keeps M train transplants on their own line, instead of abandoning for the already overtaxed L is a good thing. So you see, you are wrong. This goes WAY beyond Essex-Delancey |
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