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Re: Real 11-car Train April Fools Joke

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Apr 4 10:08:35 2009, in response to Re: Real 11-car Train April Fools Joke, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat Apr 4 08:52:07 2009.

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My understanding is that the second conductor would open the 11th car but not at all the stations as some were not long enough to fully platform an 11 car train. Does this sound right? It would be interesting to know which platforms on the "E" and "F" routes back then could not hold an 11 car train.

All the regular stations could handle 11 car trains. It's the reason that the transfer of the Culver Line to the IND resulted in running the D on the Culver and terminating the F in Manhattan. The F had run to Church Ave prior to the Culver transfer.

There's some question regarding the lengths of the platforms between Bway-ENY and Euclid. The E was not extended beyond Bway-ENY until the Rockaway Line opened in 1956. That date is close to when 11 car trains were abandoned. So, whether or not the 11th car did not open is still questionable.

The only exception that someone has brought up is Woodhaven Blv, which would have been used had express service been diverted to the local.

OTOH, the IRT did not get full length 10 car platforms until well after WWII. They had expresses opening 8, 9 and 10 cars with the 2nd conductor. They also had only half the local train platform on the uptown side of the Lex until at least 1958.

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