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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans

Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Sep 14 22:43:51 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Sep 14 22:13:15 2008.

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No. That is your opinion of what signal system should be used.

That does happen to be my opinion. As it happens, it's also shared by people with common sense and the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).

It may not be cost-effective.


Yes, by all means, let's accept the cost of hundreds of lives damaged or destroyed for failure to even put in something archaic like a trip system to apply emergency braking and to ensure an adequate signal system. Let's accept the cost not to re-design interlockings to eliminate delays in block. Let's accept the prospect of hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits, maybe billions - there were 350-400 passengers, and 6 crewmen - hundreds or thousands of lives destroyed and damaged (because this type of avoidable collision WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN if not avoided).

The agency accepted blame for the conduct of its employee.


Wonderful - put the blame on dead guy and move on, promising better training in the future. Meanwhile, given the fact that engineers are imperfect, there will be another collision, and it will probably be fatal and horrific.

Metrolink is just playing the advance game in the press of making prospective jurors more sympathetic.

That's all there is to it.


Only if you're a fool.

Look at the changes made by NYCT in response to the Williamsburg Bridge collision. They didn't just apologize for the late Mr. Gibson's conduct. They made changes to ensure that the signal system could assure that stop signals were effective at preventing collisions. Metrorail had a fatal collision with BNSF and did not seek to assure that its signal system could assure that stop signals effectively prevented collisions.

If you think that a simple apology for the deceased engineer's conduct - which NTSB dismissed as "premature" at the time - suffices, then you are just ignoring reality.

Your post demonstrates, once again, the difference between a foamer and a professional.


I don't envy your status as a professional moron.

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