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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sat Jun 21 15:20:01 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 20 04:43:21 2008. A couple of points:Right now under construction directly in front of the Whitehall Ferry Terminal, one can see the tower that will be used for the elevator to the new South Ferry terminal station of the #1 train. This location puts the entrance in terms of walking speed barely seconds toone minute outside of the front doorways of the ferry terminal building. In essence the distance to the new station is fairly close to the ferry terminal building, about on a par or shorter than the distance with the current main entrance to the R and W trains at Whitehall Street. Frankly there is no issue at all about how much distance there is to the #1 subway from the ferry terminal. Outside of the ferry terminal along the scaffolding there are pictures of how the new entrance is designed to look. The proposed #9 train should not be a short-train of 6 six cars for several reasons. 1) Most riders are used to full-length trains on the #1 or old #9 lines. A very short train gives the impression that something is wrong, so many riders may not ride that train wondering where it is going or other fears. 2) Right now, most riders know that they do not have to run down the platform to get on the train - having a mix of very short trains and full length trains on the same set of tracks could be very un-settling for the riders. This is unlike the A and C trains or the old #2 and #3 trains, where 8 car, 9-car and 10-car trains serve those tracks. In all of those cases, the 8-car or 9-car trains were situated in such a way that most riders really do not detect a major difference that is unsettling. For example the L, J, M, and Z trains are all 8-cars in length - meaning that they are full-length trains in regular size stations. 3) If the proposed #9 trains do not stop at South Ferry, is there really a need for short trains? Would not regular length trains serve this task just as well. 4) One reason that the TA does not shorten the trains during the midnight hours as they did a couple of decades ago, was the manpower needed to cut and couple cars to trains on a regular basis. Unless I am mistaken, a full-length train generally stays that way unless there is some kind of mechanical issue with a car that needs repair. Such that most full-length trains remain so for long periods of time, reguiring the simple acts of placing the train into service, cleaning it, storing it in a train-yard, etc. If a set of 6-car short trains regularly travel the lines 5) Unless I am mistaken, but I am sure that others will speak to this point, I thought that the newer IRT-type trains were set up in 5-car units. If so, a 6-car train might take some work to create on a regular basis. Just a few thoughts. Mike |
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