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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Mar 10 14:50:51 2008, in response to Re: Re-Open LIRR 'White Pot Junction, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 9 11:42:00 2008. "Metropolitan Avenue = Metropolitan Avenue (Myrtle)"Absolutely not, Metropolitan Ave in middle Village is in the middle of no where. People can only either walk or take the bus to that location, you can't even park anywhere near there if you wanted to. You have a hard time even dropping off people in front, as it's a traffic lane in front of the place (very congested traffic wise), and you can't just stop there. Exactly. Most of its ridership comes from bus transferees, just like a station between St John's Cemetery and Forest Park would. The low densities mean that very few people are within walking distance. "Myrtle Avenue = Bushwick Avenue / Aberdeen Street (14-Canarsie)" Absolutely not, Bushwick-Aberdeen is even more desolate than Metropolitan on the M. There's really nothing at either location. Both also have a lot of their potential transferees removed by the BMT Jamaica Line. "Liberty Avenue - Rockaway Blvd = Forest Avenue (Myrtle)" I am very familiar with Forest on the M. I am not as familiar with Liberty Ave there, however, having lived near Forest on the M (which was once my home station), I often walked to Myrtle and Wyckoff as the M isn't a convenient line if you need most locations in Manhattan. So the L takes away a lot of the M's potential ridership. The M isn't as desirable because of where it goes in Manhattan. Liberty would have good Midtown access, and you don't have an alternative route like you do not far from Forest Ave. Exactly. Forest Avenue looks as if it should be a very high ridership station with lots of bus connections, but it just isn't. It's got subway competition from a line with inevitably better frequencies. With Rockaway Blvd (A) nearby, Rockaway Blvd (X) is likely to be somewhat similar, especially when you remember that the A train is TEH EXPRESS!!! But although you may disagree about the details, overall an annual ridership of approximately 4½ million is at least in the right sort of ballpark. It's not going to be anywhere near the 17½ million of the three Archer Av Subway stations. It would be a low ridership line, but would cause just enough of a problem across the platform at Roosevelt Avenue. |