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Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 6 14:00:36 2008, in response to Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question, posted by Charles G on Thu Mar 6 13:43:18 2008.

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Yes. An even more direct route, at an even higher cost. QED.

Of course it is more direct. That was my point. All the most direct routes to the airport have no access fees, while the less direct route, the A, has an access fee.

Even if traffic is moving, by your own statement it's a 50/50 proposition. Do you really think that the residents of Howard Beach want 1/2 the kiss-and-ride traffic from Brooklyn and western Queens coming through their neighborhood?

No. I would need to explore other options to encourage Lefferts. But charging the subway riders should not a valid option!

You're thinking about the MTA

No, I'm really thinking of the PANYNJ.

The PA is under no restriction to use fares only towards operating costs of AirTrain. They can take those fares and use them to fix up LaGuardia if they so choose.

I didn't say they couldn't. I just said the money isn't going towards the cost of building the line from lefferts to HB, and the station at HB, which seems to be a reason being given for why there is a fare. But in order to charge a fare, and introduce an inequity, that is to unorthodox, I'd think they'd need to have a much better reason than just "we're charging it because we can so we can maximize revenue to use elsewhere". In your description, the subway riders are SUBSIDIZING everyone else!?!!? How is that promoting mass transit use????

They made an investment in future revenue by building the station at Howard Beach, now they can use that revenue however they choose.

They did no such thing. According to you, they built the station just so they could collect revenue there to use elsewhere in the PANYNJ collection of properties. If that's the case, they should not have built past lefferts, and should have left a free shuttle bus from HB to Lefferts.

Remember, you're trying to justify why, unlike any other airport in the country that I know of, people are being charged for the on-property circulator, and unlike any transit station in the world that I know of, people paying for parking at the station have the fare waived, while people walking up to the station have to pay a fare. That's pretty serious. A justification of "we want the revenue" is not good enough.

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