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Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question

Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Feb 27 21:53:26 2008, in response to Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 27 21:44:48 2008.

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If the fence were opened there would be no fare, therefore their having turnstiles would to collect a "fare" would be stupid and they certainly wouldn't do it.

I ask you again: How is a fare or charge itself enforcement for farebeating? There is no farebeating in the absence of a fare.


We'll try this again.

I said:

"You're confusing the reasons for a fare with the reasons to enforce payment of the fare set."

The confusion on your part hasn't cleared up. You give a conditional:

If the fence were opened there would be no fare

But that conditional is clearly a counterfactual. The fence hasn't been opened, and there is still an access fee being charged and being payed without protest or outrage.

I asked earlier for your argument why there shouldn't be an access charge. You replied simply that the access charge is 'bad transportation policy', whatever that is. That notion is normative, and clearly not many people share that view with you, it seems, and clearly and most relevantly not the people who use Airtrain.

So where's the argument to the PA that they should not charge any access fee at Howard Beach?



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