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Re: LION sends note to MTA: Some Subways Found Packed Past Capacity |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jun 26 18:58:56 2007, in response to Re: LION sends note to MTA: Some Subways Found Packed Past Capacity, posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Jun 26 16:55:39 2007. People do use MNRR at Fordham, to commute to White Plains and Stamford. Fordham is actually the 4th highest MNRR station in total usage.There is a reason why many people don't use MNRR to go to Manhattan, high fares, especially peak fares. They discourage usage outside of reverse commuting (with the exceptions of Riverdale and Spuyten Duyvil). Tremont and Melrose barely have service as it is, for a while many people didn't even know that an MNR station was there. Also MNR is a double fare unless you live within walking distance of the station. It is not economically feasible to use MNRR to commute to/from Manhattan for many people with high peak fares. That is why many people go to the (4) train or take one of the buses to 3 Av-149 St. Would you use MNR and pay even extra money for a service that doesn't even go all they way downtown (going below 42 St is also a double fare for those that live by MNR). Why should late night ridership be a big factor used to decide whether a subway should be built or not? Late night headways also discourage people from travelling late nights. 20 minute headways and nearly all local service doesn't encourage everyone to stay out late. If daytime ridership (rush hours middays, weekends and evenings) is good enough it can justify a subway. A new 3 Av subway likely wouldn't even have a 174 St station anyway so that area wouldn't even be an issue. Tremont Avenue (177th Street) would however be one of the stations. 180 Street could be a station as well (Bx36 24/7 bus). Bx15 runs 20 minutes late nights, NOT 60 minutes on 3 Av. Reverse commuters and other MNR riders looking to save money (like those at Marble Hill) would transfer from rail to/from subway. People in Harlem could use the SAS to get MNR at Fordham. Like how some people go to Marble Hill to get MNR (Marble Hill is also an "express" stop as well). Not everyone who would use this subway is only going to be commuting to/from 3 Av, those who also use Bx41, Bx41 LIMITED and the crosstown buses could also use the 3 Av subway as well, so Bx15, Bx21, and Bx55 ridership doesn't tell the whole story. Also more people would likely use a subway late night than wait on a corner for a bus. |
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