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Re: Intermediate Station Fare Payment on SIRT (was:Re: Scrap pecking order with R44-SI)

Posted by WillD on Tue Sep 5 03:27:06 2006, in response to Re: Intermediate Station Fare Payment on SIRT (was:Re: Scrap pecking order with R44-SI), posted by J trainloco on Mon Sep 4 22:03:29 2006.

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Haha, leave it to you to bring up LRVs for the SIR.

Doing that would require a large amount of capital invested in stations as well as rolling stock. For that reason, it might not be a good idea.


Not at all. They could very easily order a high floor LRV vehicle powered with third rail. The Bombardier Flexity Swift vehicles which the Rotterdam Metro uses are virtually identical to the low floor vehicles used here on the Minneapolis Hiawatha light rail line. The Rotterdam Metro 5300 series cars are a high floor, underrunning third rail powered Metro variant of the BBD Flexity Swift. Bombardier also has produced another high floor variant, the K5000 which Koln uses on their LRT lines, but that one has automatic steps to go between high and low platforms (albeit without ADA compatibility). It'd be entirely possible for the MTA to order a high floor, third rail powered LRT for service on the South Shore, and then a low floor, OHLE powered variant for the North Shore and any other LRTs created on SI. The two cars would be entirely compatible and it wouldn't be *that* hard to keep the two fleets separate. The existing right of ways could be maintained on the South Shore while new routes on SI are built for LRTs. If it'd really be that hard for the MTA to keep the two separate then they could easily order cars similar to Rotterdam's newer 5400 series cars, which are capable of operation on both third rail and overhead lines, just without ADA compatibility at low platforms (provided the cars are equipped with a K5000-like automatic step).

If the MTA, NJT and PANJNY get serious about a regional transport system they could easily run HBLRT across the Bayonne Bridge down to the SI Mall. The MTA could then create their own LRT line on the Northern Branch with some sort of junction connecting to HBLRT where the Bayonne Bridge crosses it, and thus converting the SIRT to a more LRT-like vehicle would make sense, especially in terms of compatibility with the North Shore cars.

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