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Re: what do you mean by Underruning 3rd rail? (was LIRR ESA)

Posted by wzlirr on Wed May 24 05:32:46 2006, in response to Re: what do you mean by Underruning 3rd rail? (was LIRR ESA), posted by Fytton on Wed May 24 04:25:39 2006.

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I wasn't aware that an M9 was even contemplated. Unless there is a break with tradition, an odd numbered MU would have to operate on the LIRR/MNCRR Hudson/Harlem. It wouldn't be a pantograph equipped railcar -thus, the whole moveable third rail shoe issue is moot as are the voltage/transformer issues.
All of these suppositions should be centered around the M8 if it ever sees light of day.
Actually - the whole thing is kinda stupid considering the New Haven ran EP's 1-5 into Penn and Grand Central. Overhead in Penn and third rail GCT. there's no point in running a commuter service up the west side from Penn since there are,
1] no stations between Penn and Riverdale
2] time - running a train up from Penn will add at least 40 minutes to commute [as compared with the same trip from GCT].
3] there's no layover space. Sunnyside is already packed with Jersey Transit equipment, and the Westside Yard is already loaded with LIRR trainsets.

As for the eastside access - It's a waste of time and money - most LIRR commuters need to head into lower Manhattan. people get on the subway and head downtown.


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