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Re: Horace Harding Subway

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 30 07:31:08 2024, in response to Re: Horace Harding Subway, posted by JAzumah on Tue Oct 29 23:48:29 2024.

That's the thing.
We have no "private enterprise" , when it comes to subways in NYC.

Sure,we may have Investors around developments, even companies that operate entire complexes like the Fulton Center, World Trade Center etc.

Bombardier operated the Hudson Bergen Light Rail for NJ Transit under control turnkey.

Design build operate contracts are becoming more popular Because it obligates the lead contractor to make sure the project is built to specs, and operates as expected.
NYC subways Are Not.
Though you Might can call the NYCTA a 'private operator' who LEASED THE SUBWAYS AND BUS system from the City of New York, it operates as a subsidized system,of the larger STATE owned systems.
It has "investors", (Metromedia company OWNED the R62s, for an certain amount of years, until the State paid the bond back used to purchase them), just as the Port Authority was the purchasers of many NYC bus contracts.

Private Public enterprise has happened over the years, mostly behind closed doors because the city wanted to be "the Face of any and Every project".

They took the risk, and they took the public backlash of it failed.
However, the "city" has No ACCOUNTABILITY TO ITS CITIZENS, SO it's shareholders are protected.
This has happened over and over again with Every project the City has undertaken , and the subways are no exception.

As truth be told, this is directly the reasoning behind the lack of meaningful route expansion, especially the "New Routes Program" of the 60s and 70s failure.

Today, with Much more "accountability" attached to work contracts, projects Are being completed,a bit smaller than it should.

Whoever gets the IBX, will certainly be subjected to "we are watching you" penny pitching model,so this particular route can be showcased as a turning point with the MTAs Capital Construction team.

Plus, the line will be the first Not to be based around the standard "work schedule 8 hour window".

The SAS will be based on the Usual,reflecting on its dense catch basin.

As I've said,it is Because of These factors,that subway building In NYC will change very little, with No true TRUNK ROUTES BEING BUILT ANYWHERE.
Only small extensions,and add ons.
What the MTA Could do,is build connectors between routes, to ease some bottle necks, rebuild some IRT routes that were built for B Division trains to increase capacity and connect them to true "Triboro subway" routes.

There are ways, but money and time aren't factored




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