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Re: Extending the SAS across 125th on the table

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Oct 10 10:07:35 2023, in response to Re: Extending the SAS across 125th on the table, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Oct 10 07:53:42 2023.

Counter-argument: if you have a cross-125th subway line, you can reduce reliance on buses there too, even if more population isn't "reached."

A frequent misconception about connecting different lines is there's a significant demand to travel "crosstown" instead of "downtown."

My analyzer also measures 3 additional parameters that are designed to quantify demand for workers. The first is the number of workers among the population that live along the proposed route. The second is the number of jobs located along the route.

The third is the number of commuters along a proposed route. A commuter is a person who lives and works within 1/2 mile of one of the proposed stations.

The results show: the population is 135K (line 2); the number of workers is 65K (line 15); the number of jobs is 71K (line 31); and the number of commuters is 6K (line 48).

That's quite a drop from the workers who live along the route to those who live and work along the route. The numbers get worse. Some of those commuters live close enough to home to prefer active transportation i.e. walking. My threshold is 1 mile - a 20 minute or less walk to work. (Good for the soul, better for the cobbler.) This reduces the potential demand to 760 for the "crosstown" service offered by the 125th St extension.

Here are the numbers:
itemCurrent2020New2020Current2010New2010Current2000New2000
1Combined Included Proposed Stops
2- Population135,288128,077125,371
3- avg Dist To Subway (miles)0.1500.1490.1500.1500.1480.147
4- median Dist To Sub (miles)0.1590.1590.1540.1530.1590.159
5- Walk To Subway135,288135,288128,077128,077125,371125,371
6- % Population100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%
7- Increase000
8- % Increase0.0%0.0%0.0%
9- Travel To Subway000000
10- % Population0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%
11- Decrease000
12- % Decreasenan%nan%nan%
13- avg Dist to Subway (miles)nannannannannannan
14- median Dist to Subway (miles)nannannannannannan
15- Workers65,43246,01820,968
16- % Population48.4%35.9%16.7%
17- avg Dist To Subway (miles)0.1480.1480.1500.1500.1400.140
18- median Dist To Sub (miles)0.1540.1530.1450.1450.1310.131
19- Walk To Subway65,43265,43246,01846,01820,96820,968
20- % Population48.4%48.4%35.9%35.9%16.7%16.7%
21- Increase000
22- % Increase0.0%0.0%0.0%
23- % Workers100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%
24- Travel To Subway000000
25- % Population0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%
26- % Workers0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%
27- Decrease000
28- % Decreasenan%nan%nan%
29- avg Dist to Subway (miles)nannannannannannan
30- median Dist to Subway (miles)nannannannannannan
31- jobs70,57048,0738,865
32- % Population52.2%37.5%7.1%
33- Jobs To Worker Ratio1.081.040.42
34- avg Dist To Subway (miles)0.1310.1310.1250.1240.1330.133
35- median Dist To Sub (miles)0.1060.1060.1060.1060.1310.131
36- Walk To Subway70,57070,57048,07348,0738,8658,865
37- % Population52.2%52.2%37.5%37.5%7.1%7.1%
38- Increase000
39- % Increase0.0%0.0%0.0%
40- % jobs100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%
41- Travel To Subway000000
42- % Population0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%
43- % Jobs0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%0.0%
44- Decrease000
45- % Decreasenan%nan%nan%
46- avg Dist to Subway (miles)nannannannannannan
47- median Dist to Subway (miles)nannannannannannan
48- Commuters5,6574,187541
49- % Population4.2%3.3%0.4%
50- % Workers8.6%9.1%2.6%
51- % Jobs8.0%8.7%6.1%
52- Walk To Work4,8973,674497
53- % Commuters86.6%87.7%91.9%
54- Travel To Work76051344
55- % Population0.6%0.4%0.0%
56- % Workers1.2%1.1%0.2%
57- % Jobs1.1%1.1%0.5%
58- % Commuters13.4%12.3%8.1%
59- Avg Commute (miles)1.1991.2031.227
60- Median Commute (miles)1.1651.1731.169
61- Walk Home To Subway7607605135134444
62- % Population0.6%0.6%0.4%0.4%0.0%0.0%
63- % Workers1.2%1.2%1.1%1.1%0.2%0.2%
64% Travel Commuters100.0%100.0%,100.0%100.0%,100.0%100.0%,
65- Avg Distance (miles)0.1340.1310.1340.1300.1160.138
66- Median Distance (miles)0.1250.1250.1250.1250.0990.099
67- Walk Job To Subway7607605135134444
68- % Population0.6%0.6%0.4%0.4%0.0%0.0%
69- % Jobs1.1%1.1%1.1%1.1%0.5%0.5%
70- % Travel Commuters100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%100.0%
71- Increase000
72- % Increase0.0%0.0%0.0%
73- Avg Job To Subway Dist (miles)0.1310.1310.1250.1240.1330.133
74- Median Job To Subway Dist (miles)0.1060.1060.1060.1060.1310.131
75Proposed Stop Walking Increase
76137th St000
77Broadway-125th St000
78Lenox Ave000
79St. Nicholas Ave000


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