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Re: PITKIN AVE-- PROFF??

Posted by AlM on Mon May 8 18:21:10 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS:] PITKIN AVE-- PROFF?? (Was - Re: Fulton Street Subway), posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon May 8 17:39:01 2023.

Thank you, but you do realize that is unreadable, don't you? Let me try to reformat (below).

You have some real stuff here, as follows:

- Tom Carey, signal maintainer, told you about the station circa 1968.

- A motorman told you that as a C/R in the early 1960s he had to pump out some water from behind the cinder block wall.

- You talked to former police officer Wayne Drummond circa 2002. Wayne told you that another officer, Joe Pecoraro, took Wayne to Pitkin Yard, where they then walked to the cinder block wall and through a door in that wall. Then they walked a ways on the roadbed to a partially completed 76th street station, which they looked at with the light of their flashlights. Features included a blue tiled wall and a sealed up stairway to the street.

So what you report of actual substance is:

- Tom Carey told you all about it in 1968.

- There was once some excess water behind the wall.

- Wayne Drummond gave you details around 20 years ago, which you now repeat.

Thank you very much. At least now we know your story. I personally have no opinion on the veracity of Tom Carey and Wayne Drummond, but I appreciate hearing your rendition of Drummond's story. We do have a detail that could be corroborated: that the cinder block wall has a door in it.



Text, reformatted:

1964, i HIRED ON TO THE t.a. WENT TO WORK AS A TRUCK DRIVER FOR THE SIGNAL DEPT. ONE OLD TIMER WHO I WORKED WITH WAS TOM CAREY, SIGNAL MAINTAINER. I WOULD ASK HIM ABOUT VARIOUS BELLMOUTHS I SAW AS A KID "RIDING THE RAILS" AND HE WOULD ANSWER.

HE TOLD ME THAT WHILE WORKING PITKIN YARD HE CAME ACROSS THE YARD LEADS TO 76 ST, WALKED IT WITH HIS MAINTAINER WHO SHOWED HIM THE 76th ST STATION. I HAVE DESCRIBED THE STATION AS HE DESCRIBED IT TO ME, 1968 WHILE A TRANSIT COP [DIST.33]

I ASKED A M/M IF HE KNEW ABOUT THIS. HE ANSWERED THat IN THE EARLY 1960`S HE WAS A C/R ON THE PUMP TRAIN, THEY HAD TO PUMP OUT THE TUNNEL ON TRACK A7. THEY WENT BEYOUND THE CINDER BLOCK WALL FOR A DISTANCE, HOW LONG HE DIDN`T SAY UNTIL THEY HIT WATER & PUMPED IT OUT. NO, I DIDN`T ASK HIM HIS NAME.

NOW WE GO TO APX. 20 YEARS AGO. I SPOKE TO A COP WAYNE DRUMMOND OF L.I. WHO I USED TO WORK WITH IN THE 7-5 PCT FROM 1969 TO 1978. I HAD CALLED HIm UP ON AN UNRELATED TRANSIT QUESTION. W/O ANY PROMpTING HE TOLD ME THAT HIM & ANOTHER COP NAME OF JOE PECORARO, A FORMER COP WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBWAY/EL SYSTEM WHEM WAYNE SAID "LET ME SHOW YOU SOMTHING" AND SHOWED HIM THE TURNOUTS On THE CHESTNUT ST. CONNECTION.

JOE SAYS NOW I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOMETHING.THEY DROVE INTO PITKIN YARD, GOT A SET OF KEYS FROM THE TOWER MASTER. THEY WALKED THE YARD LEADS TO CINDER BLOCK WALL WHICH HAD A STRUCtURE DOOR IN IT. WALKED THE ROADBED FOR A DISTANCE UNTIL THEy CAME UPON THE 76ST FRAMED OUT E/B STATION.

NO TRACKS OR LIGHTS WERE IN THE YARD LEADS, JUST THEIR 2 BATTERY FLASH LIGHTS. THE STATION HAD SEALED UP STAIRS TO THE STREET, BLUE TILES ON THE WALL.

THE TUNNEL BEYONd 76th ST STATION WENT FOR A DISTANCE; THEY DIDN`T WALK IT. THE W/B STATION WAS A PARTIAL SHELL.THIS ADVENTURE OCCURED ON A SLOW 4X12 TOUR & BOTH COPS WERE ON THE CLOCK. YOU WANTED NAMES,YOU GOT EM.



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