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Re: [PHOTOS:] PITKIN AVE-- PROFF?? (Was - Re: Fulton Street Subway) |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sun May 7 20:19:25 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS:] PITKIN AVE-- PROFF?? (Was - Re: Fulton Street Subway), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun May 7 18:40:31 2023. When assessing why the BoT, and later NYCT decided to connect the transit system at what is known as Liberty Junction, from a civil construction point of view, it was less costly, and quicker to connect the LIRR Roackaway RoW at Liberty Avenue instead of constructing connecting tunnels from the existing QBL line bellmouths at 63rd Drive to meet the LIRR RoW at White Pot Junction.Plus there would also have been an additional expense to rehab the entire LIRR RoW between White Pot Junction and Liberty Avenue, as was performed south of Liberty Avenue towards Jamaica Bay. To place the northern section of the LIRR RoW into service would require the rebuilding of the existing LIRR roadbed, new track, signaling, power distribution, communication and station construction would have added a significant cost that the BoT, and later NYCTA, could not afford at the time considering that BMT-IND unification projects were in the planning stages, or in progress. Redirected Second Avenue Subway Bond money could only go so far. One proposed plan by the BoT, based on subway expansion maps, was to meet the LIRR RoW to the Rockaway's via a Fulton Subway extension in to Queens, not from the Liberty Avenue elevated. Under what arrangement might have been reached between the LIRR and BoT for service is only speculative. The LIRR RoW on the Rockaway peninsula was grade separated with a reinforced poured steel elevated structure in about 1941. The only exceptions were the Rock Park 116 Street terminal that remained at grade, and the new temporary low level elevated steel platform at Mott Avenue Far Rockaway where the RoW then continued at grade towards Nassau County. The unexpected (?) Jamaica Bay trestle fire changed any NYC transit Rockaway takeover time line, if a timeline had actually existed. The elevated RoW in the Rockaway's were built with some intent by the LIRR for rapid transit takeover considering that all new stations, except Matt Avenue, had high level platforms. Subway service to the Rocakway's was always a NYC agenda. The LIRR property that was once the Far Rockaway station complex, and rail yard was sold and developed into a strip mall in the late 1960's, recently was torn down and developed with new residential housing. A what if is, how long would have the LIRR continued to serve the Rockaway branch across Jamaica Bay had there been no trestle fire, and what might the MTCA, NY State agency that operated the LIRR after the NY State takeover of the LIRR in 1965, have done with the Rockaway Beach line RoW going forward??? |
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