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Re: [PHOTO] MOTORMAN

Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Jun 29 20:12:18 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] MOTORMAN, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 29 18:38:45 2018.

Hello Randy O---

YES ! I do remember some of the cars (could have been those MUDC converted GIBBS car) that had the dark green covering (I guess like you stated it was dark green paint) with that clear 8 or so inches of clear glass at the bottom.

I remember walking to the front of a head-end Gibbs car in the very early 50's (I didn't know then that is was a (called a) Gibbs car, or any tech stuff yet) and squatting down, bending my head upward, looking UPWARD thru that small glass opening and seeing, thru the darkened vestibule, the tunnel lights passing the motorman's window, the storm door (he had it's upper drop sash lowered) and left side window. After about 5 or so minutes in that uncomfortable head bent up, body squatting down...I lost the "thrill" of being at the head end -- gave up and sat down next to my father on the car.

I don't remember if it was an MUDC Gibbs or not. I did ride a few of the Manual Door Gibbs cars (Modified Motors) that were at head ends on some locals (E. Side Pelham & W. Side IRT) and vividly remember the door shades still in them -- you could see the worn faded fabric on the vestibule side of the glass windows in the vestibule "parlor" sliding doors (heh). In one case the shades were pulled all the way down. Those Modified Motor Gibbs likely became the last and sole surviving Hi-V Motor work horses along with the few Manual door HEDLEY and Deck Roof Cars - as the R-17' and R-21's came on the East & West side IRT between late 1955 and early 1957.

Thanks for the Painted Glass "heads up" -- either forgot that or didn't realize 63 years ago then now, heh, that it was "paint".

regards - Joe F



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