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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Thu Jun 28 21:46:10 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] MOTORMAN, posted by FtGreeneG on Thu Jun 28 20:17:33 2018. Hello Ft GreenWell, there was little seat vandalism on the old IRT and BMT El cars and Steel pre war BMT and IRT Subway cars -- all of which I rode (well, those still in operation between mid 1940 and 1969, heh) They had that relatively hard "rattan" seat covering (looked like corn on the cobb, joking) and that was hard to cut with switchblades that the many punks in the 1960's and later carried. The first post war subway cars (other than R-10,12-14-15 classes which had a newer and colorful design variation of that earlier yellow rattan) - the BMT R-16's and IRT R-17's and 21's came with red vinyl covered, foam filled nice comfy seat cushions. The punks soon really enjoyed slashing them up -- like cutting into a piece of bread or cake ! It was by the IRT R-26's and later that the hard plastic "vandal proof" seats -- tho not graffiti proof, heh, came about. And older post war cars got retrofitted with same. A few of the old IRT Low-V's - and some IND R-1/9's and some BMT Standards - had their rattan covered seat cushions with the red vinyl -- others had foam covered cushions installed in the 1956-57 period. See IND car below with this red vinyl covering over the seats.  But yes, that's why NYC Subway seats are hard (and not comfy) like the seats i rode on so long ago. regards - Joe F |
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