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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 28 17:22:10 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] MOTORMAN, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 28 16:03:19 2018. Not that I’m aware of although it depends on what you mean by “full MUDC” and a “full trainset.” By 1925, both the BMT and the IRT had rebuilt a large number of gated el cars with MUDC and those trains ran with full MUDC. However, many of the el trains on both the IRT and BMT consisted of gate cars so those trains of course were not MUDC. Even into the early 1960s, 10 car IRT trains of Lo-Vs still ran with 2 C/Rs and although I’m not sure of exactly when it was stopped, BMT trains of 8 steels ran with 2 C/Rs, the second carman being in the 2 car butt that was added to trains for rush hours. The IND had stopped using rear guards sometime in the mid 1950s, but it wasn’t until the early to mid 1960s that 2nd C/Rs were completely eliminated from the NYCTS. Into the mid 1970s, the Boston T even ran with 2 “guards” on 4 car trains. When SMEEs were first introduced to the Bway IRT in the mid 1950s, they ran in 9 car consists since the end doors of trains were past the ends of the platforms on most stations which worked OK for the Hi-Vs and Lo-Vs but not for the R types. The initial operation was interesting since a 2 C/R crew might go S/B to N/Lts with the rear guard just going along for the ride, but he might be needed for the return trip if it was a Hi-V. Once the Bway Line was virtually 100% SMEE, all Bway exps were 9 cars and as R types started to appear on the West Farms 7 Av service, 7 Av Bx trains were reduced to 9 cars including the Lo-Vs. |
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