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Re: N to 96/2

Posted by Michael549 on Sat Jan 7 16:37:22 2017, in response to Re: N to 96/2, posted by GojiMet86 on Sat Jan 7 14:54:49 2017.

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From a previous message:

"Because it is Astoria riders that have a bigger risk of going to the wrong destination under a 2nd Avenue (N) sign that they won't be even paying attention to until the C/O announces it."

My response:

Imagine that I lived in Astoria and now need the N or W trains to get home. Imagine also that I am at the 34th Street-Herald Square station and can easily see the trains and the signage about the station platforms.

On the local track there are arriving R-trains to Forest Hills, and W-trains to Astoria. On the express track there are N-trains to Astoria, a handful of N-trains to 96th Street/2nd Avenue, and Q-trains to 96th Street/2nd Avenue. Now which trains to take?

The answer is simple. I take the N and W trains that ARE LABELED ASTORIA! I would also listen to the conductors and the announcements that SAY THE TRAIN IS TRAVELING TO ASTORIA!

The existence of those other routes or destinations are NOT relevant to where I want to go.

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Imagine that my home station is at Castle Hill Avenue on the #6 train in the Bronx. Imagine also that I am at the 42nd Street-Grand Central Station and can easily see the trains and the signage about the station platforms.

On the local track there are arriving #6 trains to Parkchester, and #6 trains to Pelham Bay Park. On the express track there are #4 trains to Woodlawn, #5 trains to Dyre Avenue, and #5 trains to 238th Street. Now which trains to take?

The answer is simple. I take the #6 trains headed to Pelham Bay Park, because they stop at Castle Hill Avenue, and the other trains do not. I would also listen to the conductors and the announcements that SAY THE TRAIN IS TRAVELING TO PELHAM BAY PARK!

The existence of those other routes or destinations are NOT relevant to where I want to go.

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Imagine that my home station was Beach 36th Street in Queens in Far Rockaway. Imagine also that I am at the 42nd Street-Eighth Avenue Station and can easily see the trains and the signage about the station platforms. I can also see the passageways to the various other train lines, and their signage.

On the local track there are arriving C trains to Euclid Avenue, and E trains to the World Trade Center. On the express track there are A trains to Lefferts Blvd, A trains to Far Rockaway/Mott Avenue, and a few A trains to Rockaway Park. Now which trains to take?

The answer is simple. I take the A-trains headed to Far Rockaway, because they stop at Beach 36th Street, and the others do not. I would also listen to the conductors and the announcements that SAY THE TRAIN IS TRAVELING TO FAR ROCKAWAY.

It is totally non-relevant that there are other A-trains to Lefferts Blvd or even a few trains to Rockaway Park - because those trains are simply not going to where I need to go. It is also not relevant that at Times Square that there are #1, #2, #3, #7, N, Q, R, or W trains via the various passageways and platforms - because none of them are going to where I'm going.

The existence of those other routes are NOT relevant to where I was to go.

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I simply do not know why you think that subway riders living in Astoria are stupid!

Within my lifetime the following trains have traveled directly to and from Astoria - the RR, R, N, B, QB, Q, W, and now both N and W trains. There are other residents that can go back to the QT and I think the TT. Thankfully they gave me their subway maps! (Smile)

It is so much fun having friends that live all over the city. They can point the best places to eat. (Smile)

The thing that too many folks forget about the automated train announcements is that they are constant, and always indicate the destination of the train. While the front number or letter is important - it is not the only detail. GojiMet86 wants us to think that huge numbers of Astoria riders will be flumoxed by N-trains to 96th Street-2nd Avenue that at each station are constantly saying, "this is a 96th Street-2nd Avenue bound N-train."

Then he accuses me of not "understanding the riders." Please!

Mike



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