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Re: HBLR Extension

Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 11 19:10:38 2016, in response to Re: HBLR Extension, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Oct 11 18:34:36 2016.

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The rail lines in general that you wish for simply do not exist to make much of a dent.

The only rail expansion that would hit the bus market hard is MOM.
West Trenton, Phillipsburg and the Lackawanna Cutoff to Pennsylvania would be small time, low ridership, and very slow, especially the first two.

As it is, Raritan Line daily loadings west of Raritan to High Bridge is 290 - 300 people a day. Phillipsburg might get you a bus load more, which is why they cut it back in the first place - too far to go to fetch too few people.

#7 train would intercept buses at Secaucus, former Erie trains, and NWK Division train passengers who wish to go to east 42nd Street area, and several blocksnorth and south of it, and avoid both Penn Station and Times Square transfers. The latter two have nothing whatever to do with Hoboken.

But with a northern Hoboken intermediate #7 station and turning the 126 bus into a feeder itself would remove 7.44% of all the buses. Between 6 and 10 am, the 126 is 134 of the 1,800 total buses. What they have now is hardly a one seat ride - the 126 at rush hours is packed to the gills, which is not very comfortable, nor very safe, and very labor intensive.

The new PABT requires a 10th Avenue station buildout, and the Jersey politicians and the PA all know that. For those not wanting the #7, they get their commuting times extended by walking to other subways from shifting the terminal an avenue block west and 1 - 2 street blocks south.

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