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Re: POSTCARDS: Brooklyn Bridge and NYW&B

Posted by The Silence on Sun May 3 13:38:32 2015, in response to Re: POSTCARDS: Brooklyn Bridge and NYW&B, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 2 22:28:48 2015.

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The New Haven did, but the NYW&B wasn't the New Haven, ether de factor or de jure. Yes, the NH controlled the NYW&B, but they were still separate entities. the PRR used to own the LIRR, but the LIRR was not the PRR, established by the fact the LIRR today still operates under it's original charter.

The general idea when the Westchester was to try to save their passengers money. As K. Trout said. The Central charged per head, passed onto the passengers in their fares.

They decided that if they terminated in the Bronx and passengers would transfer to the 3rd Avenue El, the fare on the IRT being cheaper than the surcharge for Grand Central, that people would switch to the Westchester from the Central lines it paralleled for the lower fares.

Well, they were wrong, people didn't mind the extra costs if it dropped them off in Midtown. But it was too late.


The alternative of Penn Station was crowded even back then. This is aside from the fact that Penn would not haven been a option until 1917 when the Hell Gate Bridge opened. So the Westchester would have spent 5 years somewhere else anyway.

The New Haven itself was already sharing access to the station with the Pennsylvania, the LIRR and the Lehigh Valley(plus the B&O trains under USRA operations during World War I). Also, it was third rail only until 1933, so the Westchester's cars would have needed to be dual electrified to the PRR/LIRR standard. And, of course, the PRR had to be paid.

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