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Re: Why were there 3 platforms at Atlantic Ave?

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Dec 19 14:47:55 2013, in response to Why were there 3 platforms at Atlantic Ave?, posted by Hoosac on Thu Dec 19 13:19:19 2013.

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The BRT Fulton Street Elevated line (from downtown Brooklyn and the Manhattan via the Brooklyn Bridge) was a three track that met what is called the "L" train today at Atlantic Avenue, and then continued on its journey to Lefferts Blvd. The Atlantic Avenue station was a massive elevated junction to allow the movement of trains between the 14th Street subway (to/from Manhattan), the Brooklyn Broadway line (via today's J-train tracks to/from Manhattan), both to/from the Canarsie segment, both to/from the Lefferts Blvd segment. There were various switching tracks, as well as track access to/from the East New York train yard.

Description:

At the extremely old Atlantic Avenue station (say 1940) there were six tracks, two tracks with middle platform for out-bound L-train and Fulton local trains. Two tracks with middle platform - next to the previously mentioned set of tracks. Until fairly recently, the Manhattan bound L-train upon leaving Sutter Avenue would take a wild swing along Snedicker Avenue to meet up with the Manhattan bound local track of the Fulton Street level = two tracks with middle platform. Since 1956 - when last remaining section of the Fulton Street EL line (that existed on Fulton Street) was abandoned) the trackway of this abandoned track could clearly be seen.

Why 6 tracks?

Think of if as an "in and out" problem.

The L-train provided 2 tracks (in and out), the Fulton line provided three tracks (in and out). So where did the sixth track come from. Simple - it could have came from the middle track or the Manhattan bound local track, for extra capability and/or flexibility. There were various switch tracks between those lines, and there was a need for direct train both to and from the train yard. One of the middle tracks could also have been used as a layup or storage track between the stations.

In any case here are some pictures of the three tracks of the Fulton Street EL both before and after the Atlantic Avenue station, that may help to understand what used to be there:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116180

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?87578

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?70525

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113450

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116181

The Hinsdale Avenue station was the station immediately past the Atlantic Avenue station headed toward Lefferts Blvd. Here one can see that 4 four tracks are being created on the Fulton Street line. Notice the setting of the switch in the photo.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6595

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?130195

Two stops away from Hinsdale AVenue was the Van Siclen station, notice that there are two tracks. The same could be said for the Linwood Avenue station, the next station away.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26432

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26430

The PDF of the BRT elevated lines may also help explain some of the services that were offered then.

http://images.nycsubway.org/maps/bmt_1931.pdf

Hopefully somebody can point to a detailed track map to help answer your questions.

Mike





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