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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Jun 7 14:33:28 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 7 12:37:17 2013. Joe: Here's the original rollsigns lists for the R-27's.R-27 ORIGINAL ROUTE SIGNS BEFORE CHRYSTIE STREET. The R-27’s began service on the Brighton Line on November 15, 1960 and among there many features was a new route listing combining both the IND and BMT routes and introducing for the first time route letters for the BMT Lines. This is a listing of that route sign arranged in alphabetical order and not the order in which they appeared on the rollsign. These are the outside readings: A 8th AVE EXPRESS AA 8th AVE LOCAL BB 6th AVE LOCAL C 8th AVE EXPRESS CC 8th AVE LOCAL D 6th AVE EXPRESS E 8th AVE EXPRESS F 6th AVE EXPRESS GG B’KLYN-QUEENS LOCAL J NASSAU ST EXPRESS JJ NASSAU ST LOCAL KK NASSAU ST LOCAL L 14th STREET LINE LL 14th STREET LINE M NASSAU STREET EXPRESS N BWAY-SEA BEACH EXPRESS Q BWAY-BRIGHTON EXPRESS QB BWAY-BRGTN LOCAL via BRIDGE QT BWAY-BRGTN LOCAL via TUNNEL RR BWAY-4th AVE LCL S SPECIAL T BWAY-WEST END EXPRESS TT WEST END LOCAL The inside readings where mostly the same with the following exceptions: GG BKLYN-QUEENS N BWAY-SEA BCH QB BRIGTN via BRIDGE QT BRIGTN VIA TUNNEL These then are the routes that the NYCTA had in operation or contemplated running in 1960. Sharp eyed subfans will note the inclusion of the “C 8th Avenue Local which had last run back in 1949. Did the TA plan on bringing this service back? (They did briefly during an emergency in December 1962 for a two week period.) Hard core subfans will ask the question “where’s the HH, inquiring minds want to know.” Well this was 1960 and the “HH Fulton Street Local” had last run back in 1946 as the Court Street Shuttle and would not be reactivated until 1962 for the Rockaway Locals. The BMT routes bear some explanation. The BMT was the first of the three subway systems to implement a systematic listing of their routes and this was done back in 1925 with the delivery of the D-Type “Triplexes.” All BMT routes where numbered from 1 through 16. The route numbers where never applied to the far more numerous Standards or the massive el car fleet. The Zephyr, Green Hornet and Multis articulated subway cars carried the route numbers whereas the Bluebird did not. The BMT did use the route numbers on the company issued maps but the Board of Transportation discontinued the practice. Nevertheless in 1960 those cars which could display the route numbers ,(D-Types,R-11 and R-16) did so. Listed below are the BMT numbered routes with their intended letter replacements Rt 1 Brighton Express / Q Rt 1 Brighton Local via Bridge / QB Rt 1 Brighton Local via Tunnel / QT Rt 2 4th Avenue Local / RR Rt 3 West End Express / T Rt 3 West End Local / TT Rt 4 Sea Beach / N Rt 5 Culver / No replacement Rt 6 5th Avenue El / discontinued 1940 Rt 7 Franklin Avenue/ No replacement Rt 8 Astoria / discontinued 1949 when the Astoria Line was through-routed with the Broadway Line. Rt 9 Flushing/ discontinued 1949 when the Flushing Line became an all IRT operation. Rt 10 Myrtle-Chambers Line / M Rt 11 Myrtle Avenue / No replacement Rt 12 Lexington Avenue / discontinued 1950 although original portions of the Lexington Avenue Line remained in service with Rts 14 and 15. Rt 13 Fulton Street / discontinued in 1940 and 1956 although the easternmost portion of the line remained in service as part of the IND “A” Line. Rt 14 Broadway-Brooklyn Local / KK Rt 15 Jamaica Local / JJ Rt 15 Jamaica Express / J Rt 16 14th Street Local / LL Of interest are the readings for the “L” and “LL”. They both said “14th Street Line.” Presumably the “L” would have been for the 14th Street Express which had last run in 1956, but how was one to differentiate two both referred to as “Line” and not “Local or Express.” There was no provision made for the Southern Section – Nassau Street services or for Culver or Franklin Avenue Shuttles. The lack of signs for the Southern Section – Nassau Street routes wasn’t so much a problem for the West End Line as the West End Locals had always operated to the Nassau Street Line and never ran on the Broadway Line. (Well they did once for one evening during an emergency in 1965. The little TT was put into service between Astoria and Whitehall Street for several hours.)) The R-27’s along with the R-30 and R-30A cars were never put into service on the Eastern Section of the BMT prior to November 1967. So the letters “J, JJ, KK, L, and LL were not used. The letter “M” however was assigned to the Rt 1 Brighton-Nassau Street Expresses whenever the new cars were used there. “M Nassau Street Express” was also used to designate the Rt 2 4th Avenue-Nassau Street Express in the morning rush. In the evening rush trains carried the letter “M” on the front bulkhead and “S Special” on the side route signs. Why was there no “MM Nassau Street Local? Because by the time the R-27’s were delivered the #10 Myrtle Avenue-Chambers Street Line had been reduced to a rush-hour only service which ran express in the direction of heavy traffic. There wasn’t enough time during the rush hours to change signs so the trains carried express signs in both directions. The Jamaica Express carried express signs in both directions as well during the rush hours even though it ran local in the direction of light traffic. The Jamaica Local ran at all other times which is why there was both a “J” and “JJ” reading. If R-27’s were used on the Culver or Franklin Shuttles they carried “S Special” signs. The R-32’s began service on September 14, 1964, a few days after a press run on the New York Central Railroad into Grand Central Terminal. Their rollsigns contained several modifications. Well that’s enough for now, next time I’ll look at the rollsigns for the R-32 and R-38 and well see how they differed. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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