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Re: Germany facing ''epidemic'' of fare evasion (POP doesn't work)

Posted by WillD on Sat Feb 4 22:54:41 2012, in response to Re: Germany facing ''epidemic'' of fare evasion (POP doesn't work), posted by aem7ac on Sat Feb 4 21:29:00 2012.

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So the NYCTA and the LUL have POP? Not by any industry standard definition... both of those systems require you to retain the ticket throughout your trip, and have penalty fares for failing to have a valid ticket while within fare control.

NYCT does not. The paper SingleRide card can be, and is, disposed of as soon as you pass through the gate. A Metrocard can be similarly disposed of once it grants entry to the station should that transaction leave it without value or rides.

London, definitely. There are a number of points where LUL directly interchanges with the National Rail network or are otherwise unable to have a barrier installed. Instead TfL checks fares intermittently with fare enforcement crews. That is the industry standard definition of proof of payment.

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