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Re: ''Oldest subway cars not being replaced afterall''

Posted by Joe V on Mon Jan 23 18:01:19 2012, in response to Re: ''Oldest subway cars not being replaced afterall'', posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 23 15:04:02 2012.

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I am just quoting Doctor Ronan-speak.

He wanted the 19 year old MP70T (3500) cars gone too, and they were in 1972. They had 97% availability. Their only sin is that they had no A/C. With a forced air system and axi-flow fans like the postwar R units, that was remedial. They also had facing seats cemented to the floors.

At the same, the farewell ceremony of the MP70 double-decker #1301 on Mar 1, 1972, he said it was a "most unreliable car". Per usual, he lied to carry out his wishes. The car had other problems like electrolysis corrosion between the aluminum body and steal frame, the car cleaners hated them, the passengers didn't like facing seat well. But they were an engineers car - aluminum is lightweight, even if they looked heavy and styled like a round roof P70.

The final trip had 1301, 5 3500's, and MP72 2501, the only car to survive.

LIRR mgmt wanted to keep the 3500's, and the 10 double-deckers that got a rebuild. They were to be ultimately converted to push pull. MTA would hear none of it. Also heard rumors on a fan trip 20 years ago that someone in LIRR mgmt was getting a kickback from Naparona for all copper as those cars went off to scrap immediately before anyone could stop it.

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