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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 4 16:58:14 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 4 15:50:27 2011. But there IS enough evidence. The old urban legends all developed before the city and other websites made those historical aerial photos available. While skeptical, I was just as open-minded as you on the possibilities, especially considering that weird yard on the NW corner of Pitkin/76 next to that building.Those pics put all such speculation to rest. The yard setbacks in the location are not a reasoning either way for this station. The setbacks are required by law after the zoning laws for setbacks changed. All those buildings were built AFTER zoning changed. Just because some people used that as some sort of "proof" of the station is irrelevant. Instead, in reality the trackway would have most likely been just a few feet below the natural street level. A mezzanine would have been just a few below the raised street level with utilities over that. Pure speculation. Knowing this, the 1951 pic of the section between Ruby and 77th would have exposed any station superstructure (the mezzanine roof) sticking out from the sides of Pitkin, considering that the empty lots there drop by multiple feet below the raised Pitkin and there is even foundation construction on the SW corner of 76/Pitkin. You can see that the contours of the houses there perfectly match those foundations in later pics, including the space for driveways. Along Ruby. However There is no evidence of any foundations along Pitkin, and we have no idea if there is a drop, and how much it would be. We also don't know how deep the subway would be here. 5 feet is pretty shallow for subway, it would have to be about 15 or 20 feet down. Even the shallow IRT Contract One stations are more than 5 feet down. And for the wild hysteria of there being 10+ ravines on either side of Pitkin road structure is absurd. If the City were to one day make available pictures of construction not going much past Elderts Lane, the 76ers will say that construction beyond hadn't yet started (or was already finished) or come up with more excuses to keep believing. It's like with Birthers or Truthers. No matter how much evidence is presented to them, they will come up with some other reason to push their belief beyond the bounds of rational forensic proof. Give some concrete proof and it can be discussed, thus far all we have is speculation. The 10+ foot ravines on either side of pitkin one of the wildest speculation yet. my analysis OTOH, is a point by point breakdown of why there cannot be a station there. YOur "analysis" is all speculation, and theory, not fact. |
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