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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:55:16 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 8 23:51:42 2012. As long as our constitution has no prohibition against it, I'd have no issue with an American born Pope running for president. So now you should seek help for your mental deficiency. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:57:15 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:52:49 2012. Kevin said in a previous post that he has problems with the religion itself although he'd likely deny it. He said here, something to the effect that we had no idea what its like for a Christian to live among Mormons. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:59:05 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 8 23:53:03 2012. There you go into moron mode again. If Reverend Wright wants to run for office, I have no issue with it. I would not support him but I have no issue with his candidacy. You obviously don't see the difference because your mind is so clouded by hatred. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:01:00 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:57:15 2012. You TOOK the bait! I'm proud of you! :)Here's a little ditty on one of Reagans's most powerful friends who you clearly would like to see in the White House: Wildmon's anti-Semitism "Perhaps the most serious charge against Wildmon," according to the May 21, 1989 Detroit Free Press, "involves anti-Semitism." Early this year, Simon, Porteous & Associates, Inc., publishers of this newsletter, documented the anti-Semitic position of Rev. Wildmon. This documentation was delivered to 60 national Christian leaders from whom Wildmon claims support. The documentation includes evidence of Wildmon blaming Jews for objectionable TV programs and "anti-Christian" films. For years, Rev. Wildmon has maintained that "Hollywood and the theater world is heavily influenced by Jewish people." And he has consistently expressed his belief that there is a conspiracy among television network executives and advertisers which amounts to "a genuine hostility towards Christians and the Christian faith." "This anti-Christian programming is," according to Wildmon, "intentional and by design." Besides the religious leaders who denied any involvement with Wildmon, responses included that of James M. Lapp, executive secretary of the Mennonite Church: "I have reviewed the materials you have sent to us. I find the inferences and tone in these materials to be offensive. [W]e do not wish to be on public record in support of any writings or programs with open or implied anti-Semitic biases. In summary, we support Mr. Wildmon in his concern for decency and positive values. We do not support some of his tactics, attitudes or biases against Jewish people." May, Archbishop of St. Louis, and head of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, responded, "I certainly do not agree with the obvious anti-Semitic bias of Reverend Donald E. Wildmon." Other church leaders stated that they had objected to Wildmon's tactics. One, Robert M. Overgaard — who is listed as a member of Wildmon's advisory board — president of the Church of the Lutheran Brethren, said, "In so far as Wildmon equates MCA [which produced "The Last Temptation of Christ"] with the Jewish race, I find his tactics unacceptable." He continued, "I do not excuse Wildmon for his racial generalizations. I have objected to them." ADL concurs Stuart Lewengrub, director of the Anti-Defamation League's Atlanta office, said of Rev. Wildmon, "He's encouraging his followers to believe that Jews are responsible for the kind of programming they dislike." Much of Wildmon's trouble stems from his misuse of a 1982 study of television writers, producers and executives. The independent study was done by S. Robert Lichter, a professor of political science at George Washington University, and Stanley Rothman, a professor of government at Smith College. Wildmon bases much of his anti-Semitic innuendo on his misrepresentation of their findings. Lichter stated that his survey "drew no conclusions about the nature of [TV] programming or the precise motivations of program directors." He added, "We naturally abhor any imputation of anti-Semitic inferences from our survey of television producers and executives. Rothman went even further — he wrote directly to Wildmon. He said, "The inferences you draw from our data are not justified." In fact, Rothman told Wildmon that their findings presented "no evidence" to support any of Wildmon's allegations, and that a new study actually proved the contrary. Wildmon now claims that his use of the Lichter/Rothman study is to point out that "these people are secular people who have spurned religion." Lewengrub said the ADL has tried in a constructive way "to lean over backward to give him the benefit of the doubt." "If Wildmon's point is that Hollywood leaders are secular or atheists," Lewengrub said, "he can say so without alluding to their religious backgrounds. Nor does Wildmon need to note, as he often does, that the Jewish background of television executives 'contrasts dramatically with society as a whole, which is 2 1/2 percent Jewish.'" "There is no doubt in my mind that Wildmon has engaged in anti-Semitism," Lewengrub said. "He didn't stop. He continued doing it." Wildmon, Falwell and Robertson were the triumvirat behind getting Reagan elected. Let's bring them back! :( |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:01:01 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:54:07 2012. Of course if you believe in our constitution, then Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson had legitimate rights to run for the presidency. That doesn't mean that I supported either one of them. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:01:53 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:59:05 2012. I would ... we're electing a government, not a church.So who's in "moron mode?" |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:02:48 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:54:07 2012. That priest was a Democrat. The Vatican asked him to choose...resign his elected office or thr priesthood. He's still a priest. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:02:48 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:54:07 2012. Nope ... or I would have voted for Jesse Jackson at least once. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:03:50 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:01:00 2012. And this has what, exactly to do with our discussion? Does this prove that Mitt Romney should not be allowed to run for office? If not, I'm not even interested in what you've posted. Your point of view was wrong. Your opinion is idiotic and no amount of red herrings are going to divert this discussion. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 00:04:03 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:51:35 2012. It's perfectly legal but I don't want a clergyman as President either.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:04:45 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:01:01 2012. But meanwhile, I'm supposed to support Romney because if I don't, I'm a bigot. LOL! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:05:14 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:01:53 2012. Show me where in our constitution, Reverend Wright should be disqualified from holding office. Either you believe in our constitution or you don't. What part of this don't you understand? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:05:29 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:55:16 2012. I would ... I'd have to spend my entire waking hours on suicide watch for Olog if the Pope got elected. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:06:47 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 00:04:03 2012. Then don't vote for one. That's a perfectly reasonable feeling. Kevin's beliefs, on the other hand, are bigoted and irrational. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:07:26 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:03:50 2012. And that's three for three and end of the inning. We'll be right back after this word from Martian Paint ...
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:07:40 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:04:45 2012. Are you really that stupid? Please vote for the other guy. I'd sleep better. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:08:22 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:05:14 2012. Show me in the Constitution where we're voting for pastor?Your "na-na-na-na-can't-hear-you" is obvious. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:08:57 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:05:29 2012. I'll start a petition for Cardinal Egan to run. He may not be the pope but he might push you over the edge. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:10:28 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:08:22 2012. It is certainly a lucky thing that you were never blessed with children. The shallow end of the gene pool is already over-crowded. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:13:11 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:06:47 2012. Because I won't vote for the republican and explained why?You won't vote for Obama because he's "the new sheriff is a [bong]" and I won't vote for Romney because he's a destroyer of jobs AND a bishop in a known cult. Reverend Wright's church is saner but I wouldn't vote for him either. So bottom line here is that you're holding your rubber gun to my head and demanding that I vote for your guy? Fat chance. Call me all the names you wish, ain't happening. Who's the irrational racist here? Ain't me. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:13:19 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:51:35 2012. It's a document establishing a form of government, not a religion. Only a fool professes "belief" in such. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 00:14:41 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:06:47 2012. I think that's all he's saying, too, that he won't vote for a clergyman.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:14:43 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:08:57 2012. He's definitely less antisemitic than Wildmon, but given that's important to you, you might want to do a little research. But nope, he won't have my vote either for the same reason as all the others. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:14:56 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:20:29 2012. I am young at heart. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 8 23:35:27 2012. I still live in the Bronx. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:15:40 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:10:28 2012. Yep ... with you and yours. Clearly not enough chlorine ... :) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:16:05 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:17:32 2012. I was never a trial lawyer. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:16:55 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:13:11 2012. I don't care who you vote for, Bishop Romney, Pope Romney, Rabbi Romney, it doesn't matter. There is no constitutional prohibition for a man of religion to run for office. You didn't object when Sharpton ran. You didn't object when Jackson ran. You object to Romney because he's a Mormon. That makes you a bigot. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:17:03 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:08:57 2012. The Vatican would never allow it. Catholic clergy have the God given sense to stay out of elected office. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:17:12 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 00:14:41 2012. Precisely ... but I might consider voting for Tom Cruise's church. Speaking parts pay pretty good. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:18:24 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 00:14:41 2012. That's certainly not what he's said and based on his past, it's certainly not what he believes.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:18:26 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:16:55 2012. I think I'll do a write-in for Reverend Wright now ... just to satisfy your soul. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:18:45 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:14:43 2012. I'm not interested |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:19:19 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:18:24 2012. Says the guy who couldn't even read a New York Post headline and get it right. :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:21:29 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:15:33 2012. I was not referring to you. What part of the Bronx? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:21:29 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 8 23:19:26 2012. No. About whether Romney should let us know what his taxes were. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:22:40 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:21:29 2012. But Luch was referring to me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:22:49 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:17:03 2012. I guess you also have trouble following a discussion. Go watch the weather channel |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:23:14 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:16:55 2012. Rev Jackson ran years before the Internet happened. You weren't online then. Rev Sharpton ran before the Internet became a popular phenomenon. You wkeren't online theon as you're not a techie. So how do you make these blanket statements about someone you did not know then, on a media that did not exist I our life at either instance? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:24:34 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 9 00:22:40 2012. You are correct. I was referring to the guy who ran from the bronx. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:25:48 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:18:24 2012. You don't know his past. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:25:58 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:23:14 2012. Is the weather channel now off the air? Perhaps you should be watching the food channel. They are showing a recipe for stuffing turkeys with jelly doughnuts |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:26:30 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 00:14:41 2012. Lots of people won't. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:26:36 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:25:48 2012. You are missing the food channel |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:27:40 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:23:14 2012. He has the power of Limbaugh cheese which makes him omnipotent. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 00:29:03 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:25:58 2012. Figures you would know that.obviously you're watching. No TV in this room. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:34:39 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:27:40 2012.  You voted for obama last time. Are you insane? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:37:47 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:34:39 2012. Wow WHAT a dumbass you are. Just ... fucking ... wow.No WONDER they kicked your ass out of the MTA. Can't read, can't listen, can't even retain what you've read 6 times in one sitting for two days. Wow. Medication time for you, bro ... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:40:22 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:37:47 2012. You got me confused with you. I'm the one who retired with the nice pension. You were the one that had to leave or get fired. It takes a special brand of fuck-up to have one's own union turn against him. You are beyond meds, sis. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 9 00:44:18 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 00:40:22 2012. Help is on the way ... some nice men with nets will be there shortly. In the meantime, please watch your screen. Nobody will harm you.
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