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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 23 12:32:17 2012 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/president-obama-praises-self-for-ending-war-in-iraq-on-bloodiest-day-of-the-year-in-that-country/ |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 23 12:43:09 2012, in response to Mission accomplished?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 23 12:32:17 2012. Yes. 100 dead and not one of our soldiers. Let the animals destroy themselves. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 15:03:29 2012, in response to Mission accomplished?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 23 12:32:17 2012. Wait until Iranian jets take off and land on the airfields that we built in Iraq.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 23 19:06:52 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 15:03:29 2012. One day you're concerned with peoples lives, then the rest of the days you don't care. Must depend on the skin colour, otherwise no pattern at all. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 19:12:28 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 23 19:06:52 2012.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jul 23 20:26:19 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 19:12:28 2012. +1,000,000,000,000 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:50:52 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 15:03:29 2012. You calling for US troops to go back to Iraq? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:51:45 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 19:12:28 2012. You got punked. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:52:03 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jul 23 20:26:19 2012. So you're saying that you're a racist? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:52:41 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 23 12:43:09 2012. Thanks for more proof that you're a Nazi. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:05:47 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:51:45 2012. LOL, they must have changed teh definition of "punked".No soup for you. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:13:09 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:05:47 2012. Thou lickest thy wounds in public? Thy weeping is too loud. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:14:41 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:50:52 2012. Nope. The first time was far too costly as it was.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:15:17 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:52:41 2012. LOL!!!LMAO!!!! Damn....LOFL your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:28:30 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:14:41 2012. Costly? WWII cost 4½ times as much. Old pwnt argument rehash fail. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:29:50 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:15:17 2012. It's serious when rocKKKparKKKman does it, eh? I gotcha. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:38:28 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:13:09 2012. Go pray.LOL your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:40:14 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:28:30 2012. The cost of WW2 doesn't make the Iraq war affordable.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:40:51 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:29:50 2012. I wouldn't know.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:43:14 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:40:14 2012. We can dig our way out of the Iraq war costs far quicker than digging our way out of the costs of the annual social welfare expenditure (two-thirds of a trillion per year). And think about how much lower those costs would have been if those with the liberal streak didn't insist on elections and instead used Iraq and Afghanistan as bases to take Iran down from. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:46:37 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:43:14 2012. Your plan would probably have bankrupted us.We're not digging out of the Iraq war costs quickly at all and the fact that you think that war is a better use of the Treasury than spending it on your fellow American makes you a poor American. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 21:46:50 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:28:30 2012. But you and your ilk don't want to pay for it ... and you won't even pick up a gun. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:49:32 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:46:37 2012. We're not digging out of the Iraq war costs quickly at allNot with all the increased government spending in general since '09, no. (Except on NASA and military.) the fact that you think that war is a better use of the Treasury than spending it on your fellow American makes you a poor American No, truly "poor Americans" would rather keep people impoverished on welfare than cut through regulatory crap that encourages outsourcing (something that the "insourcing" bill did not deal with at all) and really brings jobs back to US shores. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:55:39 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:49:32 2012. Um no, the idea is that Iraq is a fool's errand and I'm glad we're cutting our losses.As for your bullshit about cutting regulations resulting in a windfall of employment, keep dreaming. The object of your team is to lose jobs as a way to cut overhead. The other phase of that is that with so many out of work, the remaining workers won't dare demand a wage that keeps pace with the cost of living. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 21:55:59 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 21:49:32 2012. Spending money on technical training so that kids can learn how to MAKE things instead of how to USE things would bring those jobs back. But you righties don't want to pay for THAT either. :(Here ... read this ... THIS is why we're not making stuff, it ain't regulation, it's our stupid: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/22/business/what-happened-to-the-craftsmanship-spirit-essay.html?pagewanted=all |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:01:16 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 21:55:39 2012. the idea is that Iraq is a fool's errandWhose idea? Only that of pacifists and dhimmis. As for your bullshit about cutting regulations resulting in a windfall of employment, keep dreaming Riiiight. Meanwhile, Red China has fewer regulations and a lower corporate tax rate than the USA. That's to the USA's shame. The object of your team is to lose jobs as a way to cut overhead. The other phase of that is that with so many out of work, the remaining workers won't dare demand a wage that keeps pace with the cost of living You really think that inflation is eternal, do you? Keep it up. You're starting to look like a psychopath or at least a brainwashed hardcore Marxist, with all the propaganda spilling out. Who was it that put the most people on the welfare rolls in US history, eh? Whose "team", if you like? Unions would be a lot more successful if they kicked the leftists out of them; one way to do this is to sue the crap out of them for failure to represent every time they lose a job for US workers. Instead, union leadership prefers to be more domineering than company management. (Personal experience taught me that.) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 23 22:05:16 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 20:52:41 2012. LOL! So I'm a Nazi now? What happened to being a Marxist? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:10:03 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:01:16 2012. Perhaps if we adopted communism, we could better compete with China too."Psychopath" ... lol! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:10:59 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 23 22:05:16 2012. Almost the same thing.
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:11:50 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:01:16 2012. Who wants to be like China.As for the rest of your rant, again you're spiking the ball over a non-victory and trying to make the debate about me and not the issue. Go pray. go pray for some common sense. Please. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:13:58 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:11:50 2012. You're arguing with a boy who loves to show off his pigeons ... “Arguing with some true believers is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around as if it were victorious.” |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:16:45 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:10:03 2012. We should be like ChinaChina is Communist We should be Communist? your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:17:56 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:11:50 2012. Who wants to be like ChinaThought you'd gloss over that one. Ask most of Obama's cabinet if they want to be like China; many have already answered publicly in the affirmative. Except for the low regulation and high corporate taxes that is . . . until they can beat the US population into submission and do exactly what you claim "my team" (so-called) want to do. again you're spiking the ball over a non-victory and trying to make the debate about me and not the issue Please stop weeping. You can't argue an issue with rhetoric and no facts, so why did you try? Go pray. go pray for some common sense Haha. Right after you post another Media Matters or Raw Story link. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:19:24 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:16:45 2012. Nobody said "we should be like China". You complained about Holmes' mother not explicitly saying that ABC lied; don't say something I didn't say. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:22:29 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:19:24 2012. How do you know it was you I was making light of?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:32:19 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:17:56 2012. Nobody wants to be like China; we just want the economy to be robust like theirs has been.Nobody's weeping. You look like your usual insane self. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:39:25 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:32:19 2012. Nobody wants to be like China; we just want the economy to be robust like theirs has beenNon-draconian regulations and low corporate tax rates are not a characteristic unique to China; in fact, that's what the USA used to look like before shifting left. Communists prefer heavy progressive taxation, which makes China's policies (which are generally unique to foreign corporations) a means to an end. Nobody's weeping. You look like your usual insane self . . . says the guy who posts links to Media Matters and Raw Story. Glass houses, eh? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:39:43 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:32:19 2012. Nobody wants to be like China; we just want the economy to be robust like theirs has beenNon-draconian regulations and low corporate tax rates are not a characteristic unique to China; in fact, that's what the USA used to look like before shifting left. Communists prefer heavy progressive taxation, which makes China's policies (which are generally unique to foreign corporations) a means to an end. Nobody's weeping. You look like your usual insane self . . . says the guy who posts links to Media Matters and Raw Story. Glass houses, eh? It's only Monday, too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:40:24 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:22:29 2012. Who said anything about "making light of"? I just said you said something I didn't say. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:41:29 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:39:25 2012. We could emulate China's long term thinking instead of our quarterly attention span. This is where our capitalism needs to be tweaked so that expenses like R & D aren't bad words anymore.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:42:01 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:40:24 2012. Who said I was talking about you?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:45:04 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:41:29 2012. I find it amusing how these 40-somethings that weren't around back then somehow think that tax rates were lower than they are now. LOL!America was strongest when the rich paid 90'ish% and corporations paid 50'ish. All those tax cuts are the reason why we're in the toilet. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:45:50 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:42:01 2012. Not me. I just said you said something I didn't say. And not to do it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:47:41 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:41:29 2012. China's long-term thinking includes spreading communism all over the globe. Should we then get back to the much-vilified-by-the-left-although-it's-what-they-did-in-Iraq "nation-building" or become an even bigger world police? Inquiring minds want to know. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:48:13 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:45:04 2012. As soon as they put those in effect we spiralled downhill. Sure there was the 9-11 effect but we got over that and still we headed to the dumper.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:53:53 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 23 22:47:41 2012. I meant the R & D component of business and not communism you twit.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:56:45 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:48:13 2012. And you'd think that any of the repercussions of the PNAC plan for the Middle East would cause any of these asshats to say, "wait a minute?" :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:58:54 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 22:53:53 2012. Even allowing long term engineering and getting away from the "gotta make the quarter" bullshit would help. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 23:02:09 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:56:45 2012. That part is unbelievable too. PNAC gave Iraq to Iran, oil and all.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 23 23:02:56 2012, in response to Re: Mission accomplished?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 23 22:58:54 2012. That's what needs to happen but American capitalism has degraded into the Bain model.your pal, Fred |
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