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Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011

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http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-you-shouldnt-donate-to-salvation.html

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 23 07:51:35 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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The Salvation Army does have many scary ideas, but I think branding them a "cult" is a stretch. A bunch of fundies? No doubt, but not really a "cult" in the sense that Scientology is a cult.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 07:56:46 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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Wow, sounds almost as nutty as Jehovah's Witness,

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 07:57:49 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 07:56:46 2011.

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That said, it's written by a blog, so I take it with a grain of salt anyway.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 23 08:24:15 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 07:57:49 2011.

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That said, it's written by a blog, so I take it with a grain of salt anyway.

All of the information comes directly from the Salvation Army website, verbatim, so you can verify it yourself.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Nov 23 08:25:58 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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If the unborn ain't people, why do state Medicaid Agencies give them special express treatment?

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 08:34:47 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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None of that surprises me at all. I wonder what he thought they were?

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 08:58:34 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 08:34:47 2011.

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many people think that they're nothing more than a charity like the Red Cross.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 09:50:57 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 07:56:46 2011.

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No it doesn't.

Except for the alcohol part, their positions on just about everything are no different than that of the one, true and holy, universal and apostolic Roman Catholic Church.

The RCC has been called many things but "as nutty as the Jehovah's Witnesses" was never one of them.



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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 10:21:49 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 08:58:34 2011.

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Probably. Though their name might give a hint that they have religious goals.

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Its a Church (Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever)

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 23 10:26:37 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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Wikipedia says that The Salvation Army is a Protestant Christian Church.

You should know by the name that it is a religious organization and if you choose to donate to it, or not donate to it, you should at least know what it is.


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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 10:35:46 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 09:50:57 2011.

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Except for the alcohol part, their positions on just about everything are no different than that of the one, true and holy, universal and apostolic Roman Catholic Church.

And except for gambling. Probably also divorce. Probably also birth control. And certainly the various doctrinal differences between Protestant and Catholic theology like transubstantiation.

Also, the Catholic Church strongly disapproves of pornography, but I've never heard of them opposing the legality of at least soft core porn. The only place where the Catholic Church pushes to make the law agree with its position is on abortion (e.g., they don't oppose the sale of condoms).



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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 10:46:21 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 08:58:34 2011.

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I guess. I had heard decades ago that some homeless refuse their services because they have to go to church and get involved in other religious activities. Their opinions aren't out of whack with many Protestant churches.

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Re: It's a Church and only the brain-dead didn't know that (Re: Salvation Army)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:20:02 2011, in response to Its a Church (Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 23 10:26:37 2011.

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And there seem to be a lot of brain-dead people around now.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:22:05 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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OK . . . now you've moved from libertarian to liberal to outright communist. Who didn't know that the Salvation Army is a Christian church?

Your link is full of the same psychotic commie-babble about the "Religious Right" that we've been hearing for decades.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 11:25:24 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:22:05 2011.

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Just shaddup and ring the bell. Don't tug on the beard and make sure you turn in all the money this evening.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 11:29:33 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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I won't read this garbage.

If I'm missing something, maybe someone will let me know.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:56:38 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 11:25:24 2011.

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Scary stuff.

Their thrift shops are great for finding older electronics. You won't find any new 16-rpm record players or 8-track recorders that work in too many other places, and for super-cheap prices . . . never mind top-loading first-generation VCRs that are 1˝ times the size of DVR/VCRs that they sell in Mall-Wart . . .

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 12:01:02 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:22:05 2011.

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"Who didn't know that the Salvation Army is a Christian church?"

I was really surprised to find out it was a church, when I was maybe age 12 or so.




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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 12:04:07 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:56:38 2011.

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I've bought clothing items there and an end table once.

I call them "Sal's".

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 12:24:03 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 11:29:33 2011.

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Read Olog's first post to get the gist. It's criticizing the salvation army for being anti-abortion and for not being pro-gay. But it's geared towards liberals so it's not ridiculous in that context. Liberals prefer that their churches be a little more tolerant and not so strict with that sin stuff.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 12:27:23 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 12:24:03 2011.

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Liberals prefer that their churches be a little more tolerant and not so strict with that sin stuff

Tiresome that they abuse the word "tolerant" so much, expanding it to evil acts when it originally meant to not be chauvinistic.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 23 12:37:31 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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Yea, and?

They're a protestant church, what are you expecting them to say?

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Nov 23 13:32:54 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:56:38 2011.

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Hmm, maybe I can find a cassette deck there.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 13:41:48 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011.

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Was this a serious blog post or some kind of "the Onion" farce?

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 15:52:20 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 12:24:03 2011.

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Anyone who is anti-abortion is a piece of garbage.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 16:14:56 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 15:52:20 2011.

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Huh?



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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 16:17:27 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 15:52:20 2011.

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Worked up!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:30:46 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 23 08:24:15 2011.

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The gist of it is that the SA is a Christian organization. To a liberal, this is somehow malevolent. For most Americans, it's common, inoffensive knowledge.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:47:46 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 16:14:56 2011.

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What don't you understand, AlM?

Anyone who is against abortion is a piece of garbage.



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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:49:22 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:47:46 2011.

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Why? I'm pro-choice, but I don't have such feelings for those I disagree with, many of which are in my own family.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:50:13 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 16:17:27 2011.

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Livid!!!!!!!

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:52:03 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:49:22 2011.

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I thought you were against abortion and even called it murder.

It's ABORTION. Stop say "choice". It's and abortion not a buffet.

We need more abortions in the world. Idiot Republicans fight abortion because their base is out of touch.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:52:44 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:49:22 2011.

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I thought you were against abortion and even called it murder.

It's ABORTION. Stop saying "choice". It's and abortion not a buffet.

We need more abortions in the world. Idiot Republicans fight abortion because their base is out of touch.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:55:09 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:52:03 2011.

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No, but I understand those who do view it that way. I am pro choice, but I do dislike abortion. I am also offended by pro choicers who consistently refer to the issue as strictly medical, on par with liposuction. What I do not support is forcing a woman to think the way I would want her to think. That's fascism.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:58:17 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:55:09 2011.

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I see abortion as an effective means of population control, crime reduction, and lowering the deficit. That's what I hate about conservative Republicans. They don't see things the way inner-city Republicans like us do.

You and I are inner-city Republicans.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Nov 23 17:00:22 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Nov 23 13:32:54 2011.

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Hmm, maybe I can find a cassette deck there..

I go to S.A. and Goodwill to find rare items and bargains.

If you mean audio cassette, they're kinda rare.

Now video cassette or VCR, every thrift store has tons of them. And they're not the older models but some aren't that old.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 17:04:27 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:58:17 2011.

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To a pro-lifer, you sound like an early 20th century eugenics proponent. And an awful lot like a Nazi. Nazi Germany was the first government to hype abortion as a means of controlling the size of undesirable populations (to you, that means those nasty brown people who live in the hood). Look where that lead:



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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 17:07:02 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Nov 23 17:00:22 2011.

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I have a Sony dual cassette deck (TC-W365) but I never use it. I used to use cassettes to listen to a lot of stuff I bought before converting to CD (in 1995), but now I just download the stuff from mediafire.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 17:07:08 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 17:04:27 2011.

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(to you, that means those nasty brown people who live in the hood)

LOL. You can read my mind? You sound like streetcarman1 when I read his posts.

You're comparing abortion to the holocaust?

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 17:09:32 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 17:07:08 2011.

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No, I am comparing the pro-abortion arguments to the pro-eugenics arguments of 100 years ago. They are strikingly social-Darwinist. If the left didn't control the media, there would be significant comparisons made between pro-choicers today and eugenicists like Margaret Sanger and William Shockley back in the day,

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 17:09:44 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:49:22 2011.

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IAWTP, which I can't say very often. :)

What's more, I would say I am against abortion, in the sense that I want to see as few abortions as possible. I just don't want first-term abortions to be a criminal offense.





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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 17:17:48 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 17:04:27 2011.

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(to you, that means those nasty brown people who live in the hood)

LOL. You can read my mind? You sound like streetcarman1 when I read his posts.

You're comparing abortion to the holocaust?

you're neighborhood pretty much is the hood.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 17:19:44 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 17:09:44 2011.

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you can't be against abortion in a "sense". you are either for it or against it.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:01:34 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 17:19:44 2011.

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Not many subchatters have admitted being against abortion. It's not a popular position around here.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 18:01:50 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 17:19:44 2011.

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False. I oppose abortions and oppose criminalization of first-term abortions.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:05:31 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 18:01:50 2011.

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That's not opposing abortion in the context of the national debate.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 18:10:27 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 18:01:50 2011.

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lol.

well, I won't argue with you.

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 18:19:04 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Nov 23 17:00:22 2011.

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If you mean audio cassette, they're kinda rare

I still see a good few of them at SA thrift stores; even high-level ones that can record on CrO2 and higher-end metal oxide tapes. (The rare one is the DAT, or digital audio tape recorder; I remember seeing them new in Radio Shack in the very early 90s, and I wonder how they held up.)

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Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 18:26:07 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:01:34 2011.

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What's funny is that ChrisR16 is the premiere "Republican" of Subchat and when he wanted to win an argument against me, he played the race card against me by bringing race into the abortion argument. So how is ChrisR16 different from all the libs who play the race card all the time?



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