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Posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:15:49 2011 http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/obama-i-d-like-to-bypass-congress-and-change-the-rules-on-my-own--20110725President Obama let his frustration over the stalled debt talks seep into an address on Latino issues on Monday, confessing that he’d like to “bypass Congress and change the laws on my own.” He told the National Council of La Raza, “Believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you.” But he told the group meeting at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel that he has to work with Congress and will continue to fight for what he called a “balanced” plan that does not focus solely on spending cuts but that spreads the sacrifice to the wealthiest Americans as well. La Raza—and activist Latinos elsewhere—are disappointed in the president for not keeping his promise to champion comprehensive immigration reform in his first year in office. They are particularly angry that his administration has been aggressive in deporting undocumented immigrants, but the president defended the record number of deportations, contending he has had no choice. “Those are the laws on the books,” said Obama. “I swore an oath to uphold the laws on the books. That doesn’t mean I don’t know very well the real pain and heartbreak that deportations cause.” He added that he shares the concerns of Latinos. “I understand them and I promise you we are responding to your concerns and working every day to make sure we are enforcing flawed laws in the most humane and best possible way.” His ''I'd like to change'' comment followed a section in his speech that mentioned the limitations of Washington in stopping deportations. He then spoke of his frustrations in dealing with Congress. His ''bypass Congress'' comment drew applause and chants of "Yes, You Can," a 2008 campaign slogan. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 15:26:19 2011, in response to Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:15:49 2011. Way ahead of ya man:http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815915 |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 25 15:29:24 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 15:26:19 2011. Sounds like what he said in state of the union speech #1, and probably before then too for all I know. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:32:06 2011, in response to Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:15:49 2011. confessing that he’d like to “bypass Congress and change the laws on my own.”He told the National Council of La Raza, “Believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you.” HOLY crap. I guess MR OBAMA is forgetting that we have a system of checks and balances (thankfully) assigned by the founding fathers to avoid one of the three branches of government from trying to override or take power away from the other two. A very smart safegaurd set into our government to AVOID what Mr OBama is trying to say he "wants" to do. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 15:37:20 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:32:06 2011. Can you imagine if Bush or Cheney had said this to a conservative activist group? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:38:11 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:32:06 2011. Oh please. I'll brush this comment aside like I did when Bush made his "dictator" comment.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:40:48 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 15:37:20 2011. The usual Bongbong, Smaz & Co group will probably just ignore the thread instead. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:41:23 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 15:37:20 2011. Imagine....your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:42:17 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:40:48 2011. They wont'.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:44:10 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:38:11 2011. Ah yes, you mean the comment when Bush JOKINGLY said it would "be a lot easier....". Now if only Obama was joking. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:45:26 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:42:17 2011. http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/2002/10/29_Dictator.html |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:46:01 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:44:10 2011. I only HOPE that you're joking.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:47:21 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:45:26 2011. Your point? You're proving mine, thanks.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 25 15:49:17 2011, in response to Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:15:49 2011. Sieg Hiel! Long live the race!How fitting this is where he said so....again. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:49:50 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:47:21 2011. "I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked."You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas. "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said. Easier for certain, but please show where that says he wants to go around Congress? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:50:28 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:46:01 2011. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815960 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:51:48 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:41:23 2011. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815960 |
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Posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:53:17 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:38:11 2011. Why is it that people bring up Bush when ever Obama is being discussed? Seriously when you criticize Obama the response is always “well Bush..” it’s a great way of deflecting criticism. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:53:32 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:49:50 2011. Ummm....both Bush and Obama were joking. You must be, too.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:55:03 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:53:17 2011. That's what the Obama Administration and his loyal at his feet followers have been doing his entire presidency. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:55:27 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:53:17 2011. Why is it that people can't understand the concept of direct comparison?Besides, read the post it was responding to. Sheesh. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:58:33 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:55:03 2011. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815968your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 16:02:34 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:55:27 2011. Why is it that people can't understand the concept of direct comparison?Why does it matter what Bush said? You seem to think I’m a fan of Bush I’m not; he acted though not as much as Obama has (Bush go congressional approval before going to war with Iraq, Obama did not with Libya). read the post it was responding to. Sheesh. That post made no mention of Bush |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 16:04:10 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:55:27 2011. Besides, read the post it was responding to. Sheesh.Where did I bring up BUSH? He's right, nothing could ever be said of Obama without the "Well Bush....." |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:05:32 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 16:04:10 2011. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815950Wow......just wow.... your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:06:19 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 16:02:34 2011. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815950This is why, Dand124, this is why. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:16:06 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:06:19 2011. This helped me justify why I do what I do. Thanks.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 25 16:16:10 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:44:10 2011. Huh?Bush was joking and Obama wasn't? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:17:13 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 25 16:16:10 2011. Yeah, that's the long and short of it. Obama Derangement Syndrome strikes again.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 16:19:32 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:06:19 2011. That wasn’t the post you responded to… |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 25 16:22:19 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:17:13 2011. And then he says he's an unbiased centrist. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:23:31 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 16:19:32 2011. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=815953Was too. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:24:20 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 25 16:22:19 2011. LOL, and nobody believes that either.your pal, Fred |
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Re: I think it finally sank in |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:26:39 2011, in response to Re: I think it finally sank in, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:16:06 2011. It justifies nothing. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:30:40 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:32:06 2011. I guess MR OBAMA is forgetting that we have a system of checks and balances (thankfully) assigned by the founding fathers to avoid one of the three branches of government from trying to override or take power away from the other twoWADR to the president, his railing against "negative liberties" and his praise of European leadership bespeaks his intent to violate his own oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:31:43 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:53:17 2011. No, it's an ineffective way of deflecting criticism. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:33:42 2011, in response to Re: I think it finally sank in, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:26:39 2011. Thanks for the Imprimatur.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:34:13 2011, in response to Re: I think it finally sank in, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:33:42 2011. Yes, now you can fly the TARDIS. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:35:00 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:30:40 2011.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:36:04 2011, in response to Re: I think it finally sank in, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:34:13 2011. If you fly it again would it be the RE-TARDIS?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 16:37:48 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:49:50 2011. I love it when someone else does my work for me.Obama wasn't kidding. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:41:30 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 16:37:48 2011. Guess the president was raised to believe that oaths are meaningless? Why swear to defend something that you have come to hate? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:42:04 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 25 16:37:48 2011. Obama Derangement Syndrome again.Oh please, he was joking. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 25 16:46:10 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:42:04 2011. Yes, Obama joked during his whole State of the Union address.Pathetic people debating their perceived version of 'reality'. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 16:51:18 2011, in response to Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:15:49 2011. OH NOES, he's talking out of frustration, leave it to idiots like you to take it figuratively. When shit doesn't go your way, don't you at times wish you could do it yourself?God the right wing is full of retards who make mountains of molehills. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:55:10 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 25 16:46:10 2011. Hahahahahaha, you so funny.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:56:45 2011, in response to Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by Dand124 on Mon Jul 25 15:15:49 2011. HORY SHIT! You actually WENT there? Hahahaha!Don Pardo! Tell him what he's won! :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 16:59:47 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:56:45 2011. Already posted that. Go through the thread and see where Bush was "only joking" but Obama was serious. ahahahahaha!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 17:00:57 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 16:51:18 2011. Dand124 is one of the most vocal left-wingers on this site. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 25 17:04:48 2011, in response to Re: Obama would like to be a dictator, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 25 17:00:57 2011. Yes then when you see the righties taking this and running with it I might as well swing the bat, dand is an idiot |
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