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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:11:19 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 23:07:44 2011.

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It's not terribly misanthropic. And it's not terribly wrong (it is, grossly speaking, accurate).

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:13:11 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 13 23:07:57 2011.

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I'll bet that an MIT woman would be much more of a hot fuck than a slutty jetBlue stewardess or stripper.

I had a very very high IQ girlfriend in 1993 and 1994 and she liked sex more than some of my neighborhood girlfriend. This woman was a little older than me. I would go over her house on Friday, fuck her three times, then on Saturday and Sunday, fuck a total of six more times. We left the apartment only to eat or go to the gym.

I also believe that people who go to religious services on the weekend, fuck much more than non-religious types. The women always look hot.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:21:56 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:13:11 2011.

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I had a very very high IQ girlfriend in 1993 and 1994 and she liked sex more than some of my neighborhood girlfriend. This woman was a little older than me. I would go over her house on Friday, fuck her three times, then on Saturday and Sunday, fuck a total of six more times. We left the apartment only to eat or go to the gym.

Hey there you go! But I think you just lucked out. Most high IQ women seem to have low sex drives, you may have just hooked up with one that was a bit less prudish...

I also believe that people who go to religious services on the weekend, fuck much more than non-religious types. The women always look hot.

Well non-religious people are more intelligent. Which is an interesting irony when you think of how religious people view sex.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 14 00:24:06 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:13:11 2011.

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TMI and what's with the disparaging remarks towards stewardesses . . .

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:31:17 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 13 22:43:50 2011.

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Blacks are certainly more masculine than whites, who are more masculine than E. Asians, both psychologically as well as physically. One thing that seems to have evolved as you go both along the black -> brown -> white -> E. Asian spectrum and up the IQ curve is decreased sensitivity to androgens, which leads to lower physical and (social) masculinity.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:38:36 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:31:17 2011.

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black -> brown -> white -> E. Asian

LOL. That's the pecker pecking order for average penis size too.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 14 00:39:35 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:31:17 2011.

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Blacks are certainly more masculine than whites...

I dunno bout dat...



your pal,
Fred



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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 14 00:40:26 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:38:36 2011.

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Holy yardstick, Batman!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:42:51 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:38:36 2011.

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Indeed. LOL! As per Rushton's r/K theory...

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:46:12 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 14 00:39:35 2011.

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LOL!

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:52:23 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 14 00:24:06 2011.

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TMI and what's with the disparaging remarks towards stewardesses . .

A jetBlue stewardess gave me her number so I'm on a tear. Besides, I'm not referring to the entire industry. Just the girl who gave me her number.



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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:08:13 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 00:21:56 2011.

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Well non-religious people are more intelligent. Which is an interesting irony when you think of how religious people view sex.

I still dispute that non-religious people are more intelligent.

Yes, you should see how smoking hot the Jewish women are at the synagogues in Forest Hills. Same for many of the women I see when I go to church. They are nice to look at.

Look at the girls of The Mary Louis Academy. They are both religious and intelligent, yet not bible thumping religious, and many of them turn out to be exceptional women. Happy, healthy, reproductive women.

Hey there you go! But I think you just lucked out. Most high IQ women seem to have low sex drives, you may have just hooked up with one that was a bit less prudish...

Nope. Her friends were like that too. And many corporate type women I've met are sex machines.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 14 01:10:42 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:08:13 2011.

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You going to be in NYC over Memorial Day? I might fly into EWR on SW on Saturday and fly back to PHX the last flight of the day on Monday. I know I won't be able to spend all that much time in NYC but I really need to use my free ticket on Southwest.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:17:28 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 14 01:10:42 2011.

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You going to be in NYC over Memorial Day? I might fly into EWR on SW on Saturday and fly back to PHX the last flight of the day on Monday. I know I won't be able to spend all that much time in NYC but I really need to use my free ticket on Southwest.

Will Southwest be running to EWR by then? I think that service starts in June, just after Memorial Day.

When are you going to be in Orlando?

I am not sure if I will be in NYC that weekend, but there is a very good chance that I will be.



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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 14 01:18:41 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:17:28 2011.

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I'm going to be in Orlando sometime in October. My brother will be doing the Disney College program and I'm going to use it as an excuse to go to Disney World and Universal Orlando.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:22:05 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 14 01:18:41 2011.

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Check Southwest's website. Make sure they are running to EWR in May.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 06:32:35 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Wed Apr 13 22:56:50 2011.

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Increased athletic activity also increases muscularity.
There are plenty of men that are both smart and athletic who have great muscular builds.
Women too.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 06:46:22 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 19:30:46 2011.

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Low income people have children at an earlier age, not sex.
Higher income people actually start earlier.

Many lower income people come from conservative religious and cultural backgrounds and have sex later. they just don't use birth control when they do.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 06:49:11 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:17:28 2011.

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I am not sure if I will be in NYC that weekend, but there is a very good chance that I will be.

Take him to the good eating places.


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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 08:27:10 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:38:36 2011.

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Why do you know that?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 08:28:44 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 06:32:35 2011.

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Tim Duncan.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 14 08:45:20 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 08:27:10 2011.

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lol

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 14 08:46:12 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 00:38:36 2011.

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What a bunch of HORSE SHIT. I KNOW

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 09:59:01 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 01:08:13 2011.

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Yes, you should see how smoking hot the Jewish women are at the synagogues in Forest Hills. Same for many of the women I see when I go to church. They are nice to look at.

Well, attractive people are also more intelligent than less-attractive people.

Look at the girls of The Mary Louis Academy. They are both religious and intelligent, yet not bible thumping religious, and many of them turn out to be exceptional women. Happy, healthy, reproductive women.

I have my doubts how religious these girls, especially coming from a Catholic school, actually are. But while they obviously have higher IQ's than the general population, it may not be in MIT range (130 or 140+). As well, as a private school, it may select for bright but religious families.

>>>Hey there you go! But I think you just lucked out. Most high IQ women seem to have low sex drives, you may have just hooked up with one that was a bit less prudish...

Nope. Her friends were like that too. And many corporate type women I've met are sex machines.


Birds of a feather flock together... People tend to seek out friends like themselves (in fact, the correlation between the personalities of good friends is about 25%, about the same as siblings). As well, people in business/corporate careers—both male and female—are much more masculine than their counterparts with equivalent IQ's. Don't tell women this, but part of the reason that women are severely underrepresented in top corporate jobs is that getting ahead in the business world favors more socially masculine/alpha male traits (there's a reason that Peter Rosa coined the term SCA), and women obviously have a lot less of that than do men. The few women that do well in business (and to a lesser extent, politics) are going to be a more lot high-testosterone than their counterparts in academia and in other careers, and, by extension, more hot-blooded.


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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 14 10:01:00 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 09:59:01 2011.

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I dunno, Einstein and Hawking ain't hotties.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 10:05:50 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 06:32:35 2011.

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Yes. But there is definitely a trend towards decreased masculinity as you go up the IQ scale. That obviously doesn't preclude the existence of high-IQ but athletic people (as in the case of Langan).

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 10:11:46 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 06:46:22 2011.

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Low income people have children at an earlier age, not sex.
Higher income people actually start earlier.


Actually, as per my OP, low income (i.e., less intelligent people) do both start having sex earlier and have children earlier.

Many lower income people come from conservative religious and cultural backgrounds and have sex later. they just don't use birth control when they do.

It's been my observation, anecdotally, that people from ultra-conservative cultures (like the American South) are hornier than their cold-weather counterparts. The data showing the connection between IQ and religiosity and sex drive supports this. Which is rather ironic, and yes, they are less apt to use birth control, thus the dysgenic trend in the population.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 10:28:35 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 14 10:01:00 2011.

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Well Hawking, even in his prime before his disfigurement by his disease, was probably only about average in appearance



(he definitely looked all geek though), but Einstein was a nice looking dude in his prime:



He had a reputation for being quite a ladies man as well.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 10:42:04 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 10:28:35 2011.

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Are you gay too?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 11:17:42 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 10:42:04 2011.

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LOL! Certainly not.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 14 11:27:43 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 10:42:04 2011.

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What do you mean by "too" . . . ?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 12:08:13 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 14 11:27:43 2011.

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I'm pretty sure you're aware that several members of this board are gay.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 12:48:36 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 12:08:13 2011.

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Why did you even ask me that?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 12:54:29 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 12:48:36 2011.

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Because you commented on their sexual attractiveness.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 12:58:03 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 12:54:29 2011.

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LOL so a guy cannot remark on the physical attractiveness of another guy without being gay (note that I didn't say that they were attractive to me)?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:05:05 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 12:08:13 2011.

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But you said "too", meaning you are gay. At least that's how it sounds.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 13:13:12 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 12:58:03 2011.

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Not really, that's kind of the definition of homosexuality. If I'm walking with my friend, and he says that another guy walking down the street is "hot", I'm thinking he's gay.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:24:48 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 13:13:12 2011.

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LOL, I think there is a difference between saying that a guy is nice looking (fact) and guy is "hot." And all the more, it's dependent on the context. A guy randomly emoting that another guy is attractive is a casual setting is very different from objectively noting that a certain guy is physically attractive in the context of a discussion about intelligence and physical attractiveness.

If it suits you better I could have said let's find 20 women and have them tell us if they think said gentlemen were hot. But I didn't deem that step necessary.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:25:42 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:05:05 2011.

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LOL there you go! Is this sidetrack from the main discussion really necessary?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:27:52 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:25:42 2011.

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He started it.



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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 13:28:25 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:24:48 2011.

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LOL, I think there is a difference between saying that a guy is nice looking (fact) and guy is "hot." And all the more, it's dependent on the context. A guy randomly emoting that another guy is attractive is a casual setting is very different from objectively noting that a certain guy is physically attractive in the context of a discussion about intelligence and physical attractiveness.

Ok, if you think that it's cool, gay (in my opinion of course), but cool.

If it suits you better I could have said let's find 20 women and have them tell us if they think said gentlemen were hot. But I didn't deem that step necessary.

I'd much rather that, I still don't really know what physical feature females look at to determine which men are "hot".

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:40:50 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 12:48:36 2011.

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and you bash me for "thread hijacking"?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:41:25 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:27:52 2011.

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I know.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:43:18 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:40:50 2011.

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No, I wasn't really directing my statement at you.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:45:03 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 09:59:01 2011.

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I have my doubts how religious these girls, especially coming from a Catholic school, actually are. But while they obviously have higher IQ's than the general population, it may not be in MIT range (130 or 140+). As well, as a private school, it may select for bright but religious families.

Well, most likely girls who went to Catholic elementary school for 8 years, and go to church weekly. Most likely girls who will marry a Catholic and raise their kids the same way. Definitely smart enough to go to some of the better universities around.


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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:52:41 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 13:28:25 2011.

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Maybe I'm just more comfortable with my sexuality. :p

But sorry, I loves my women(woman) and couldn't have it any other way.

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 14 13:55:04 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:45:03 2011.

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If so I guess then it's selection for bright but religious (considering the type of people who send their kids to Catholic school).

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 14 18:12:21 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Apr 14 10:42:04 2011.

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One doesn't need to be gay to make a statement about male physical aestethics.

Any man who says "that guy is one ugly dude" is making such a statement.

Similarly any man will obviously want to look more like Brad Pitt than like Gilbert Gottfried and when possible will work towards that in grooming, style and physique.

that doesn't mean that guy wants to fuck Brad Pitt or someone that looks like him.

Anytime we say "that guy looks cool" and wished we'd look like him, we are making such a comparison.

Almost all men want to look good, not just to women, but also to their male peers. Homosexuality has nothing to do with it.
Looking good amongst your peers has social benefits.
When you were a kid, who did you consider worthy of emulation and respect? The ugly dudes or the cool good-looking ones?
If your sister were to bring home a boyfriend, would you be happier if he's a monstrous-looking guy or if he's attractive in aesthetics and mannerisms?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 14 20:27:07 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 13:27:52 2011.

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such a child....he started it....really, what grade are you in?

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Re: IQ and Sex

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 14 20:43:57 2011, in response to Re: IQ and Sex, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 14 20:27:07 2011.

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Did you know he's gay?

Go to sleep. You have to wake up early. You need 7 hours of sleep.

I'll be up all night listening to Coast to Coast.

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