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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:12:51 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:10:00 2011. Yes, I have been to bars in 7th Ave too, and in my opinion, it's mostly white people walking around drunk from them. I haven't gone to a bar there in about 10 years, but back then that was definitely the case. There was a whole line of them on 7th and 5th Ave. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:13:02 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 20:50:46 2011. Yeah that thread was pretty dumb.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:15:14 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:13:02 2011. Nothing against the OP, whoops.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:15:32 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:11:17 2011. Maybe but lots of black lesbians are hot. One butch, one feminine. I see that all the time. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:15:45 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:10:37 2011. Yeah, I at first took the "it's just a bar" and people don't want bars stance, but then reread the article, and Osmosis is correct on this one. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:15:52 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:08:34 2011. Yes, I know that I always criticize Bensonhurst, Staten Island, and Howard Beach, but I'll take neighborhoods like those where the residents tell you straight up that you're not welcome over phony ass neighborhoods like Park Slope where they'll scheme/panic behind your back. I also now understand why a lot of black people considering it "selling out" when you leave your life in a black neighborhood to live in an upper class neighborhood although I still don't necessarily agree with it. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:18:42 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:10:37 2011. It's cool, it's actually kinda weird since I'm not used to you & Chris agreeing with me. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:21:45 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 20:51:45 2011. You find it hard to believe because you have your own prejudices and strong sense of radicalism.If a club catering to the Metallica, GWAR, Megadeath crowd were coming to that area, the people would not be too happy. And fuck that shit with political correctness. Let's be honest with ourselves. The hip hop community has a terrible rep and it's well-deserved. Guys write songs about shooting people and laugh about it. Almost every artist has to carry a gun because they are at risk of being shot by a rival for a diss. That attitude extends to the listeners. Hey subchatters. If you have digital cable, turn on Rap Uncensored and let's talk about the hip hop culture. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:22:32 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:15:32 2011. Actually, I know a Black Lesbian couple pretty well, and you are absolutely correct. Both of them are lovely people, but the one is a VERY hot Black woman, very feminine (although a little on the heavy side, but her body structure carries it well), and the other is a much skinnier Black woman, but not partiuclarly attractive as she looks very masculine (Butch you can say). And the funny thing is that she also wears "guy" clothes. The feminine one wears very dainty and feminine clothes.But it's funny, I know a few gay couples too, and sometimes it's the same thing. One couple I know there is a very "guy" acting one, and the other one acts more feminine. The guy acting one, you would never really know he was gay if you didn't know. His "better half" there is absolutely no way he can hide it.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:24:14 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:18:42 2011. Hahahaha, when your right you are right! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:24:22 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:10:37 2011. agree with what? People would not want a modern rock club either.Smooth Jazz has a large black influence and I doubt that anyone in that area would protest a Jazz club. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:24:27 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 20:43:11 2011. Maybe this part of the article had something to do with that "hoops and hip hop" impression:On the bar’s Facebook page, where the Prime 6 logo is in the shape of a basketball, many of the “friends” are musicians and DJs. The webpage also includes a link to the “Prime 6 mixed CD,” which was created by hip hop artist DJ Big Jeff, who has songs titled, “Motha F–ka, I’m Ill” and “New Money.” The bar’s Myspace page looks a little different; it has 300 friends, most of whom are attractive women, posing suggestively. Dunno, just a hunch. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:28:26 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:21:45 2011. If a club catering to the Metallica, GWAR, Megadeath crowd were coming to that area, the people would not be too happy.Perhaps 10 or 20 years ago, but the Metallica, Megadeath Crowd is now all in their late 30's, 40's, and even 50's. I don't think they have to be too scared of that crowd anymore..... And fuck that shit with political correctness. Let's be honest with ourselves. The hip hop community has a terrible rep and it's well-deserved. Guys write songs about shooting people and laugh about it. Almost every artist has to carry a gun because they are at risk of being shot by a rival for a diss. That attitude extends to the listeners. That may be true, but these people just assumed because this is Basketball that this sports bar is going to be a "hoops/hip hop" crowd. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:29:07 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:24:22 2011. A blues club either, for that matter.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:32:05 2011, in response to "Progressive" Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 17:15:38 2011. Well, in all fairness, just beyond there is a neighborhood of brownstone. I would be concerned too. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:32:26 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:24:22 2011. Smooth Jazz has a large black influence and I doubt that anyone in that area would protest a Jazz club.Because it's an older crowd that would be attracted to that. Also older white people love Jazz too. Ever been to New Orleans? As for Heavy Metal or Rock clubs, how many of them are around anymore? Thats because that music belongs to an older crowd now, and they don't patronze bars like 20 somethings do. 20-Somethings are not into Metal or Rock, and those (of any race) are your main bar patrons. A Heavy Metal or Rock club would attract late 30's, 40's, and 50's people, who aren't like the 20-something bar crowd (of any race). |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:32:45 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:28:26 2011. Not necessarilyMaybe they looked at the Facebook and Myspace pages. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:34:02 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:32:26 2011. There are rock clubs catering to younger people, maybe not Metallica type stuff.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:34:11 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:29:07 2011. Blues = Older CrowdHeavy Metal = Older Crowd Rock = Older Crowd Jazz = Older Crowd |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:35:06 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:32:05 2011. Who lives in those Brownstones? Elitist White Democrats. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:35:38 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:34:11 2011. So what do younger crowds listen to? What clubs do they attend?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Feb 28 21:37:07 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:32:05 2011. Well, in all fairness, just beyond there is a neighborhood of brownstone. I would be concerned too.Nobody wants a nightclub in a residential area. It doesn't matter what races the nightclub attracts. My blog |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:37:53 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:34:02 2011. Not many. And if there are, it's "Justin Timberlake" sort of stuff. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:41:59 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:37:53 2011. No, there are still punk and garage bands. Also blues and jazz bands comprising of and followed by 20 somethings. Tune into a college radio station sometime.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:44:37 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Feb 28 21:37:07 2011. Have you ever seen how many bars are in Park Slope? It's party central. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:48:22 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:44:37 2011. Exactly, that's what these guys don't understand. Teenagers stumble out of Prospect Park drunk all the time, but the elitists ignore it because "their kids are too good to do such things". |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:48:48 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:34:02 2011. Yup. Remember that incident in Rhode Island where people were trampled to death during a fire? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:50:58 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:35:06 2011. I don't see how conservatives would be any more welcoming, however. The residents were there first, not the club. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:51:29 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 28 21:44:37 2011. On 5th and 7th, not 6th and 8th. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:51:44 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:48:22 2011. What teenagers? How many whites live near that park? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:51:56 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:48:22 2011. Or because that area is already a commercial strip. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:54:21 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:48:48 2011. The name of the band: Great White. LOLyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:55:51 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:24:27 2011. Park Slope is full of bars and clubs though, how come all of this false concern is popping up out of the blue only shows up when a "hoops and hip hop crowd" is expected to attend one.The webpage also includes a link to the “Prime 6 mixed CD,” which was created by hip hop artist DJ Big Jeff, who has songs titled, “Motha F–ka, I’m Ill” and “New Money.” The bar’s Myspace page looks a little different; it has 300 friends, most of whom are attractive women, posing suggestively. Like heavy metal bands don't also encourage raucous behavior & curse in their songs. I'd also like to know what the hell women posing suggestively in bikinis or lingerie also has to do with this? Didn't rock bands put butt naked women on their album covers back in the 60s & 70s? How come it was considered "artful" in those cases, but in Kanye West's case it's scandalous? It's a double standard that seems to be secretly exhilarated by the elitists. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:56:41 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:21:45 2011. But he's kind of repeating a Luch-ism that white liberals are as racist as anyone and will do what they can to keep out lower class minorities. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:57:41 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:50:58 2011. Yeah I can see a bunch of banking/stock market yups praising the idea of a new nightclub that stays open til 4 am within earshot of their palladium windows. Since they're the anti-matter of the Elitist White Democrat, they'll probably think that shet is teh dope. Right./sarcasm your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:57:43 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:51:56 2011. I don't know what to tell you if you consider 7th Avenue to be a commercial district, but not Flatbush Avenue, one of the most major streets in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:58:46 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 21:54:21 2011. :) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:58:56 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:51:44 2011. Prospect Park West is mostly an upper-class white street, although Prospect Park Southwest is mostly an upper-middle class white street. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 28 22:00:26 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:24:22 2011. Sure they would ... haven't you heard the word about jazz musicians? They smoke that reefer!
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 22:01:43 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Feb 28 21:50:58 2011. They're not, but at least they won't turn around and then falsely claim to be "Progressivists" and "Equalists". |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:02:14 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 21:55:51 2011. The point isn't about good or bad music but that's probably where they got the hip hop idea. And of course, a nightclub that has live music is gonna be noisy no matter what genre plays live there. Ok, maybe not a string quartet but most popular forms of music would invite a loud crowd,your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:03:15 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:56:41 2011. Maybe but this is more classic NIMBY than racism, not matter how much you guys want to make it so.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:05:35 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 22:01:43 2011. Actually you guys are the ones making with solid bigotry. Most of us are saying its just a case of NIMBY. You guys have concocted lurid tales of racial hypocrisy and racism based on no facts, just your own imaginations.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:06:56 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 28 22:00:26 2011. There's a lotta pork on that car yo.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 22:07:49 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:56:41 2011. Yeah, but in the middle of Brooklyn?Hip hop has a recent track record of violence. If people are concerned, it's justified. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 22:10:32 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 28 21:21:45 2011. If a club catering to the Metallica, GWAR, Megadeath crowd were coming to that area, the people would not be too happy.That's not true because there are clubs on 5th Avenue that cater to that crowd, and residents seem to be just fine with it. And fuck that shit with political correctness. Let's be honest with ourselves. The hip hop community has a terrible rep and it's well-deserved. Guys write songs about shooting people and laugh about it. Almost every artist has to carry a gun because they are at risk of being shot by a rival for a diss. That attitude extends to the listeners. Hey subchatters. If you have digital cable, turn on Rap Uncensored and let's talk about the hip hop culture. Not all popular hip hop encourages violence. Did The Fugees encourage violence? Did Outkast encourage violence? Does Kanye West encourage violence? Why do rich label executives produce violent rap then turn around & say that don't want anyone who listens to it in their elite neighborhoods? Anyways, how much you wanna bet that most of the guys protesting this have a hip hop song on their iPods? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:10:51 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 28 21:56:41 2011. It's elitist in an economic sense rather than just racial although I won't deny there are racists everywhere. Most of those brownstoners probably loathe a trip to an all white Walmart as much as anyplace. People with money buy real estate with the expectation that their neighborhood wont change.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 22:12:42 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:02:14 2011. The point isn't about good or bad music but that's probably where they got the hip hop idea.But my point it would the outrage still be there if there were Led Zeppelin songs on the Facebook/MySpace (I don't know rock that much, but I'm guessing they're "softer" than the heavy metal guys). |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 22:15:03 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:05:35 2011. These are facts, there wouldn't be any outrage if people who listened to other genres of music were expected to attend because there are lots of rowdy night clubs that appeal to people who listen to other genres of music in Park Slope. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 28 22:15:43 2011, in response to Re: ''Progressive'' Park Slope shows its true colors, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Feb 28 22:12:42 2011. I'd say the same because a rock club is gonna be loud just like a hip hop club is.your pal, Fred |
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