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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:10:16 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 00:52:40 2010.

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How about a billboard that reads:

Americanatheists.com

From there, one can spend all day listening to their arguments.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:11:05 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 01:05:41 2010.

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In agreement with R30A, there is a difference between the strong form of atheism, which the assertion that there is definitely is no god, and the weak form, which is merely the assertion that there is no evidence of god. It is more rationally prudent to follow the weak form, since it is impossible to say with certainty that there is definitely is not anything. That being said, without evidence there is no reason to ascribe belief in something, and that is the logically correct form of atheism, which is essentially equivalent to agnosticism.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:11:21 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 1 01:06:38 2010.

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Good post.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:11:31 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:00:18 2010.

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the Ancient Greeks knew that the world was round.

A few thoughtful pre-Socratic Greeks, starting with Thales of Miletus, attempted to explain natural phenomena without reference to mythology.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:12:18 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:10:16 2010.

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They didn't choose to use that one. And I agree with that choice.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:14:46 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:12:18 2010.

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They never do chose to use one that is simple enough to promote their organization, without mocking the beliefs of others.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:15:14 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 01:08:08 2010.

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You should worship other gods too. They'll be really pissed when you die that you didn't.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by R30A on Wed Dec 1 01:16:04 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:15:14 2010.

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Zeus is a mean fucker to those who don't believe in him.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:16:19 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:14:46 2010.

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Good.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:16:47 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:14:46 2010.

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The whole point is to mock the beliefs of others!

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:17:20 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 1 01:06:38 2010.

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Atheism and Agnosticism are the same.

I don't think so. People who have heard of gods, but are undecided about their existence are agnostics. People who have heard of gods, but do not believe that they actually exist are atheists. People who have never heard of gods form a separate category.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:17:37 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:16:19 2010.

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How is it good? It does nothing to advance whatever atheism stands for.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 01:18:27 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:17:20 2010.

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I don't think so. People who have heard of gods, but are undecided about their existence are agnostics. People who have heard of gods, but do not believe that they actually exist are atheists


THAT is my understanding and the context in which I use the terms

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:19:04 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:17:20 2010.

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Please see my response on this issue.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:19:51 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 1 01:06:38 2010.

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Completely false. Read the translation of both terms.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:20:42 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:16:47 2010.

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That shows no conviction in one's belief in the existence of no god(s).

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:20:47 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:17:37 2010.

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It absolutely does. More people are apt to visit their website and pay attention to this thing than if it were just a web address.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by R30A on Wed Dec 1 01:22:00 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:17:20 2010.

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If someone assigns a probability of existance of a traditional god to be anything significant, they are making substantial enough assumptions that they can not accurately consider themselves uncommitted to a set of theological beliefs.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:22:35 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:20:42 2010.

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FALSE. Mocking adults who still believe in fairy tales is perfectly valid. It's time to grow up.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by JayMan on Wed Dec 1 01:23:49 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:19:51 2010.

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We could debate the literal meaning and/or the etymology all day, but in practical function it comes down to what R30A and I describe.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:24:35 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:15:14 2010.

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And remember, according to the Ten Commandments Jahweh is a jealous God; and woe betide the hapless person who worshiped the false God Baal.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:24:43 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:15:14 2010.

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And remember, according to the Ten Commandments Jahweh is a jealous God; and woe betide the hapless person who worshiped the false God Baal.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:24:53 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:20:47 2010.

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It's going to help Christianity even more. An opposing billboard is already up and more money is being raised for opposing ads.

It's also an admission by the atheists(the left) that the war on Christmas is being lost.

Again, they should be able to promote atheism without mocking Christmas.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:30:20 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:24:53 2010.

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It's also an admission by the atheists(the left) that the war on Christmas is being lost.

I think it's a mistake to equate atheism or theism with a political doctrine. I am an irreligious independent.


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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:42:01 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:30:20 2010.

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I think it's a mistake to equate atheism or theism with a political doctrine

Both have been co-opted by political doctrines in the past and present.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:42:55 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:22:35 2010.

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LOL, how oxymoronic. Chiding one by saying "it's time to grow up" and claiming that mocking is valid at the same time . . .

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:44:23 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 01:10:16 2010.

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Beats militant atheists creating the perception that atheism is another hatemongering philosophy . . .

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:48:09 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by R30A on Wed Dec 1 01:22:00 2010.

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False again, and prejudiced view. Surely you're not claiming that atheism equals closed-mindedness now?

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:49:11 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Dec 1 01:24:43 2010.

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He's also longsuffering. How does one act when one is both jealous and longsuffering?

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:49:50 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:05:20 2010.

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But they're very dangerous to your health.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 01:52:32 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:49:50 2010.

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Yes!

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 03:32:29 2010, in response to Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 30 22:21:11 2010.

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So what? You forget about "freedom of speech"?

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 03:38:33 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 03:32:29 2010.

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Yes ... VERY sore point with right wiggers ... they want to blab all they want, but woe be anyone who doesn't think JUST like them. :(

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 03:38:35 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 00:26:03 2010.

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Uh I don't see Christianity mentioned anywhere in the rhetoric you took your eyes off the road to photograph.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:40:21 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 03:38:33 2010.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 03:42:31 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:40:21 2010.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 03:43:56 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 03:38:35 2010.

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He didn't take the photo

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:45:32 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 03:42:31 2010.

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VERY sore point with right wiggers ... they want to blab all they want, but woe be anyone who doesn't think JUST like them. :(

Who's not listening to the points of atheism? I certainly do, and find some of their points very interesting and realistic. But I don't have to mock Christmas to do it.




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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 03:52:09 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:45:32 2010.

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It's a general malfunction. The right prohibits those who think differently from the Borg cube. It's OK ... I have superuser access to the backbone. Others be downloading illegal thoughts, and having fun ... :)

But as for the right ... it's OK ... really ... maybe this button will help reassure you that you're one of them ... wear it proudly! You might convince the others to follow your example. :)




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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:55:50 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 03:52:09 2010.

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You're an idiot. No one is suggesting that the billboard be removed or that there is anything wrong with atheism. My only problem is that they are attacking Christmas.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 04:00:49 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:55:50 2010.

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Thank you, do continue with your own personal rage there, I'm too well to attend. Maybe a little FOX NEWS will assuage yer rage. :)

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 04:03:35 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 03:43:56 2010.

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ok

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 04:04:26 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 03:55:50 2010.

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They are not attacking Christmas, they are attacking fairy tales associated with it.

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 04:05:33 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 04:00:49 2010.

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I have no problem with atheism. I had no problem with the atheist ads in the subways and on buses this summer. I'm just pointing out that this ad is over-the-top.



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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 1 04:07:15 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 04:05:33 2010.

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Fine ... you worry about that, I'll worry about some snooze. Moos. :)

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 04:11:21 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 04:04:26 2010.

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They should have said, in big letters:

Americanatheists.com



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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 04:12:27 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 00:39:57 2010.

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You certainly are

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 04:14:53 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by JayMan on Tue Nov 30 23:37:29 2010.

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LOL, how come no one is getting attacked like when people criticize Islam?

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 04:15:33 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 03:32:29 2010.

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Yes, imagine if that "freedom of speech" was about the "Religion of Peace".

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Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 04:15:50 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 00:51:12 2010.

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>>>>>I'm sure most of the bullshit people buy for Christmas comes from atheist-run China.<<<

Especially if you shop ay Mall-Wart.

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