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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:33:20 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 04:53:19 2010. proof? or proff (as the retards like to use) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:33:42 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 8 08:08:30 2010. 8-) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:35:16 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Sep 7 16:52:28 2010. ain't he though? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:36:19 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Sep 8 19:30:09 2010. Yeah, Dan, but he's right on this one. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:38:31 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:36:19 2010. Yeah, Dan, but he's right on this one. You of all people should agree, based on the amount of unwarranted personal attacks made towards you by TP, alone. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:39:24 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Sep 8 19:30:09 2010. Yeah, Dan, but he's right on this one. You of all people should agree, based on the amount of unwarranted personal attacks made towards you by TP, alone. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:40:57 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 8 17:55:45 2010. I corrected a typo, that's all. Go simmer some more, asshole. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 11:09:39 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 8 17:56:35 2010. Trust me buddy, when it comes to politics in Belgium, I piss all over you, so don't even try to accuse me of lying. VB is an extremist right-wing party, who see the US GOP, and the neocons in particular, as their example.In fact, from what I've read from you here, if you lived here, you WOULD, 100% sure, be one of their voters. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 14:44:27 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 11:09:39 2010. Wow, you have to lie twice in a row. Even worse, you used the words "trust me".You are so saturated in the EU's propaganda that you can't even see reality. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 9 14:51:28 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Tue Sep 7 14:45:55 2010. That's because most people who are critical of Israel ARE anti-Semites. If it walks like a duck... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 14:55:24 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:29:30 2010. Still into the self-hatred, I see. Keep supporting those that want to slaughter you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 14:59:50 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 9 14:51:28 2010. If this one is really from Belgium, then he's been indoctrinated to believe that Israel is evil and out to exterminate the Palestinians. Good luck trying to reach him. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 9 15:00:03 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by JohnL on Tue Sep 7 14:36:27 2010. Ah, but the headline doesn't say "Why Israel Doesn't Care About the Israeli/Palestinian conflict". It says "Why Israel Doesn't Care About Peace." There's a big difference. Israel always wanted peace. It's the so called Palestinians that never wanted peace, who will stop at nothing to see Israel obliterated. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 15:04:39 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 9 15:00:03 2010. Truth.Meanwhile, the self-haters will continue to ignore that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 9 15:31:17 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 9 14:51:28 2010. GOOD POST! |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 15:43:29 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 14:59:50 2010. 'Indoctrinated'. LOL. Coming from a guy who probably think Fox news is actually fair and balanced, that's pretty rich... |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 15:49:21 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 9 14:51:28 2010. Oh, some certainly are. But 'anti-Semite' is thrown around by some people, also on here (just take a look at the toolshed who made the first response to your post) as a wildcard to stop anyone from ever criticizing Israeli policies. In that regard, it's nothing but another 'race card'. Even more, it's a disgrace that it's used so easily, because it loses all its meaning this way, meaning that TRUE anti-Semitism often gets overlooked in the sea of anti-Semitism yells that are just used in the racecard fashion. And that's a real shame. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 15:59:53 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 14:44:27 2010. Let's see what we have here:-you've accused me of lying twice now, not once even clarifying what I'm supposedly lying about; -from everything you write here concerning the EU, it seems you cunfuse it with Soviet Russia; -'EU propaganda'? Again, seen you use it a couple of times. Coming from a country where the main news sources are the likes of Fox and MSNBC, both of which seem to spew propaganda 24/7, that's pretty rich, and way in tinfoil hat territory. So let's hear what I'm supposedly 'lying about'. Vlaams Blok being an extremist right-wing party? Easily verifiable. Them looking at the GOP and neocons in particular for 'inspiration'? Their leadership is on record saying exactly that. So what am I lying about then? That you would vote for them if you lived here? That's what I believe. And I stand by it: you WOULD vote for them. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:09:46 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 15:43:29 2010. Wow, you spit out the talking points on cue. WWYBYWB, really? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:10:43 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 15:49:21 2010. Thanks for more of the EU talking points. Antizionism is antisemitism. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 16:21:36 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:10:43 2010. And again, no answer. You're a douchebag. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:27:12 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 15:59:53 2010. you've accused me of lying twice now, not once even clarifying what I'm supposedly lying aboutThe "GOP and Neocons" being the inspiration for Vlaams Belang. There's no connection whatsoever; that party is merely the right wing of the Eurocrat elite and is most definitely homegrown. from everything you write here concerning the EU, it seems you cunfuse it with Soviet Russia It's not hard to do. The government in Brussels operates in exactly the same way, with the appointed Commission acting as the Politburo (having "sole legislative initiative" and passing the laws as well since they're the executive body; that's totally against the principle of separation of powers) and the (unicameral) Parliament as their rubber stamp in the style of the Supreme Soviet. Same way that the Chinese do it too, with their Standing Committee (Politburo) and National People's Congress (Supreme Soviet). Forgive me for taking the word of Vladimir Bukovsky on that matter; perhaps you don't like famous Soviet dissidents when they say such things, as well as warning that the EU could become "a dictatorship in no time". Coming from a country where the main news sources are the likes of Fox and MSNBC Wow, we all get our news from there, is that it? especially since we've had internet access for perhaps longer than you have? If you do have a brain, it's been addled by whatever you get your news from, something you haven't yet revealed, perhaps out of fear of being exposed. looking at the GOP and neocons in particular for 'inspiration'? Their leadership is on record saying exactly that Then you should have been able to show us the alleged "record", and assuming it exists, the context and whether it's in any way in date. Either way, they have no inspiration there no matter what they might claim, since their platform has no parallel and is totally out of context with US politics. Can't find a single thing that Belien or any other Blokker said about the US Republican Party. I've seen a lot of attacks by Belien towards the GOP though. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:30:14 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 16:21:36 2010. Heh. Run out of talking points, resort to name-calling. Now that's original; haven't seen that before. What "policies of Israel" are you criticizing anyway? There's nothing that they've done that isn't legal. No criticism of the so-called "Palestinians", who want their one-state solution? They're perfect, even though "land for peace" makes them more violent with every gain?Save your lies. The EU want in there because they have designs on Jerusalem. It's the same old story that they've played out even going way back in history. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 16:37:12 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:27:12 2010. "The "GOP and Neocons" being the inspiration for Vlaams Belang. There's no connection whatsoever; that party is merely the right wing of the Eurocrat elite and is most definitely homegrown."I'm sorry, did I ever claim the party was somehow born out of the GOP? Nope, I didn't. Ever. What I said is that they SEE THE GOP AS AN EXAMPLE. A little quote, by Gerolf Annemans, one of the top VB figures (translation): "In the values debate I started from what since long is being said in American circles of the neoconservatives. I can't deny that influence." "t's not hard to do. The government in Brussels operates in exactly the same way, with the appointed Commission acting as the Politburo (having "sole legislative initiative" and passing the laws as well since they're the executive body; that's totally against the principle of separation of powers) and the (unicameral) Parliament as their rubber stamp in the style of the Supreme Soviet. Same way that the Chinese do it too, with their Standing Committee (Politburo) and National People's Congress (Supreme Soviet). Forgive me for taking the word of Vladimir Bukovsky on that matter; perhaps you don't like famous Soviet dissidents when they say such things, as well as warning that the EU could become "a dictatorship in no time"." In other new, I hear tinfoil hats are on sale. You might want to stock up. "Wow, we all get our news from there, is that it? especially since we've had internet access for perhaps longer than you have? If you do have a brain, it's been addled by whatever you get your news from, something you haven't yet revealed, perhaps out of fear of being exposed." 25% of your countrymen believe Obama isn't American, a whole bunch think he's a Muslim, and over 50% still believe in creationism. That tells me all I need to know about how much the average American uses all the news and other sources at his or her disposal. While available, an awful lot of Americans get their talking points from Fox and MSNBC, and DON'T look beyond that. "Can't find a single thing that Belien or any other Blokker said about the US Republican Party. I've seen a lot of attacks by Belien towards the GOP though. " Belien is not a VB'er. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 16:49:49 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:30:14 2010. "There's nothing that they've done that isn't legal"Um, let's see: how about the illegal settlements? The name alone would give it away. "No criticism of the so-called "Palestinians", who want their one-state solution? They're perfect, even though "land for peace" makes them more violent with every gain?" You need to stop ASSuming so much, it makes you look even more stupid. If you can find any post by me where I defend the Palestinians, or their terrorist acts, post them here. You won't find any, because I don't. I've explained that before, but that gets ignored, as it doesn't fit the picture you want to paint of me. "The EU want in there because they have designs on Jerusalem." Boy, you really are far out there... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:51:43 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 16:37:12 2010. OK, fine if you can't answer properly except with more talking points. I know that Belien isn't in the present Vlaams Belang, but he was involved with Vlaams Blok, as a MP. As for Annemans, he's lying; their influence came directly from Germany (I've been aware of VB's bedfellows for quite a while, you see), and they're trying to influence American conservatives as they've attempted to do for decades . . . and thanks for making the mistake of conflating "neoconservatives" and "GOP".Furthermore, only a total piece of leftist garbage would call Vladimir Bukovsky a member of the tinfoil hat brigade and dare to slander that man's legacy in that fashion. Everything I said about the Brussels EU government is immutable fact, including and besides what Bukovsky pointed out. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 17:01:50 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 16:51:43 2010. "fine if you can't answer properly except with more talking points."You really are unbelievable. What 'talking points' would those be now? "I know that Belien isn't in the present Vlaams Belang, but he was involved with Vlaams Blok, as a MP." No he wasn't. "As for Annemans, he's lying" LOL! Unbelievable. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 9 17:13:41 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 11:09:39 2010. We keep trying to tell the boy how the EU keeps screwing up by trying to emulate US. Didn't work out so well over here, can't believe someone else would deliberately step in it. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 9 17:26:26 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 17:01:50 2010. Olog is our official pontificate. Deep down in his bunker, he has a water closet that's a perfect replica of the one in the Vatican. Better listen to him or you'll be struck by bliksem. :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Sep 9 20:42:39 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:38:31 2010. TP doesn't bother me, I still sleep like a rock every night. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 9 23:01:01 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Sep 9 20:42:39 2010. You mean I keep you awake by comparison? If so, seek help. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 11:10:49 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 17:01:50 2010. "(Belien) was involved with Vlaams Blok, as a MP"No he wasn't Yes he was, unless he's lying on his CV? BTW, you left out the other half of the Annemans quote. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 11:15:18 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Sep 9 05:40:57 2010. No, you lied. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 11:17:40 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Sep 7 15:36:30 2010. Then why is the title "Why Israel doesn't care about peace"? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 11:31:24 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Thu Sep 9 16:49:49 2010. how about the illegal settlements?If you did the slightest bit of research into it, you'd actually discover that they're not illegal. Therefore whose "law" is trying to prohibit them? The European Union's law? If you can find any post by me where I defend the Palestinians, or their terrorist acts, post them here I said you had no criticism, not that you defend them. Stop trying to put words in people's mouths. "The EU want in there because they have designs on Jerusalem." Boy, you really are far out there No, you don't do your research. Here, the EU insists that Jerusalem be a divided capital. Javier Solana, the High Representative himself (another appointed position), said in effect that Israel has de-facto EU membership. Far out there? |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 11:56:47 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 11:10:49 2010. "Yes he was, unless he's lying on his CV?"Read the CV. Now please point out to me exactly where that says he is, or ever was, an MP for Vlaams Blok, or any party for that matter. "you left out the other half of the Annemans quote." And? The fact remains they see the neocons as 'an inspiration'. My point stands. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:05:00 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 11:31:24 2010. "If you did the slightest bit of research into it, you'd actually discover that they're not illegal."It's very much considered ILLEGAL under international law. With no less than five UN resolutions declaring them to be in violation of the fourth Geneva convention. "Stop trying to put words in people's mouths." LOL! Because that really was NOT what you were trying to do with your original statements? Putting words in my mouth? "Far out there?" Yup. Very far. Suggesting Jerusalem should be the capital of both states is a very far cry from 'Europe wanting in there because they have plans for Jerusalem'... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:11:58 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 11:56:47 2010. Now please point out to me exactly where that says he is, or ever was, an MP for Vlaams BlokI stand corrected. It's his wife; I apologize for that. The fact remains they see the neocons as 'an inspiration'. My point stands The "neocons" and the GOP are not the same thing. That undermines your point. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:14:13 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:11:58 2010. "The "neocons" and the GOP are not the same thing."But they're certainly part of it, and at the time the statement was made, the dominant part. Ergo, my point stands. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:16:20 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:05:00 2010. It's very much considered ILLEGAL under international lawThat's not true either. Re-read the laws, assuming they have legal backing to begin with and don't violate national sovereignty. With no less than five UN resolutions declaring them to be in violation of the fourth Geneva convention The UN is an illegitimate dictators' club that violates what they call "international law" all the time, never mind human rights. They and the EU are the sole source of this contention, which neither prove but by rhetoric. Suggesting Jerusalem should be the capital of both states is a very far cry from 'Europe wanting in there because they have plans for Jerusalem' Not when you include the EU regarding Israel as a de-facto member state. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:17:30 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:14:13 2010. No, they are not part of it and never were. Stop listening to your propaganda. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:18:38 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:16:20 2010. "The UN is an illegitimate dictators' club that violates what they call "international law" all the time, never mind human rights."LOL! The cat comes out of the bag. The settlements are 'legal' because you don't like the UN. Brilliant reasoning. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:21:52 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:17:30 2010. Bush was not a Republican? Never knew! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:26:01 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:18:38 2010. No, they're legal according to international law. Re-read the law.And why does pointing out what the UN really is bother you so? Look at their record. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:26:47 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:21:52 2010. Bush was not a neoconservative. Nobody denies that he was a Republican. Like I said, you're saturated in EU propaganda. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:32:24 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:26:01 2010. "No, they're legal according to international law."The world disagrees. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:35:54 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:32:24 2010. Who is "the world"? Now you have to make up this monolithic entity known as "the world". |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:37:27 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:26:47 2010. The propaganda thing is starting to get old. Our newsmedia pisses all over yours when it comes to objectivity. I've never come accross the level of propaganda I've seen in the US, on both sides, over here. It's pretty shocking really.And Bush not a neocon? If he wasn't, he surely knew how to hide it well, and he surely was under an awful lot of neocon influence. There's no denying that the neocons, while not originally Republicans, have a major influence on the GOP, and are most certainly in bed with them. Even you will have to acknowledge that. |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:38:32 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:35:54 2010. "Who is "the world"?"A very large mjority of countries. And, yes, the UN you despise so much. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 10 12:40:44 2010, in response to Re: Time: those darned Jews care too much about money to pursue peace, posted by Scorpio7 on Fri Sep 10 12:38:32 2010. No, that's not "the world". The opinion of the "very large majority of countries" does not create the truth when the truth stands opposite to them. You believe in "might makes right" then? |
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