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Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:00:38 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:13:10 2009. I liked the old ones because I could see exactly what I was purchasing before I purchased it! The APM doesn't show you nothin. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:01:40 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:13:46 2009. What's wrong with walking? And what's wrong with paying a little for parking? What's wrong with better utilizing the available land? |
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Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:03:39 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:00:38 2009. And it doesn't give you a real stamp either, right? I was wondering why I waste my time when I could print out stamps on stamps.com (for cheap?) anyway. Ever use it? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:04:13 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:01:40 2009. What's wrong with a parking garage? |
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Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:06:25 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 18:36:31 2009. Many of the "labels" for the towns on Google are wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:06:43 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:04:13 2009. costs too much to build and maintain |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:07:09 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 17:49:34 2009. For some reason it blows my mind that you're so car oriented. I don't know you, but you're a young guy and you seem so much like those "bike riding/livable streets/car free people. Except that you love cars and hate bikes....You should check out streetsblog. |
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Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:07:16 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 18:59:09 2009. Google maps isn't always right with that. I have noticed that for many locations. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:08:43 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:06:25 2009. Streets too. I remember the LA Times reporting that Google had Temple Street in downtown LA listed as "Tom Bradley Blvd" and no one knew where they got that from. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:09:14 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:07:16 2009. It's right most of the time for me. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:16:22 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:41:34 2009. All those Nassau ones are "congested", almost urban like parts of Nassau Country, where the post offices were probably built into already developed locations. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:28:18 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:09:14 2009. I said many, not most. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 20:28:59 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:07:09 2009. I do from time to time, mainly to find new "livable streets" projects to get irate about.How do I seem like one of those bike riding/car free types? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:32:46 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:07:09 2009. I never got that impression. I did meet Pig once, but it was very briefly.But where do you get the idea he's anti car? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:38:54 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 20:28:59 2009. I dunno. You're young, educated, urban, not conservative,...that's just their type. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:41:00 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:32:46 2009. I didn't think that he was anti-car. I know that he's pro-car, but he fits the profile for the car free types.I'm very glad that he's not because I find the holier-than-thou critical mass riding, car hating, planet saving car free types very irritating. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:44:45 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:41:00 2009. I'm very glad that he's not because I find the holier-than-thou critical mass riding, car hating, planet saving car free types very irritating.And then you have the "Smart Car" types... |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:51:38 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:44:45 2009. I haven't come across them yet. What are they like? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:57:51 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:51:38 2009. It's the "I-am-saving-the-planet-by-driving-this-ridiculous-car-that-only-fits-one-bag-of-groceries" types. ...and there is a 95% chance they voted for Obama.... :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 21:04:02 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 20:57:51 2009. lol. I just don't see them invading transit forums like the streetsblog types have. They ditch the car and ride buses for a few months and suddenly know all there is to know mass transit. They know for a fact that LA Metro is the worst agency in the world and that Omaha, NE has much better transit than LA even though they never rode a bus before they moved to LA. They go on critical mass rides where they block traffic evidently deciding that if they are miserable for their choices then the rest of us should suffer as well. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 21:51:02 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:38:54 2009. I've lived in a car oriented part of Brooklyn until last August except when I went to college in 2007-08. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 22 22:04:51 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 17:26:18 2009. We do have easy street parking in the outer boros. I drive to one of Terrapin's PO's all the time. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Nov 22 22:30:08 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:42:02 2009. Why do you need money orders?To send money to my brother who was in prison for several years or to send money to people with out sending cash or checks. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 22:35:37 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 21:51:02 2009. I didn't know that there were car oriented parts of Brooklyn. That's just not what you hear. That's like hearing someone say that they went to a good LAUSD high school or lived in a young, hip neighborhood in Florida. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 22:40:42 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 22:35:37 2009. I went to a good NYC public high school. Is that similar? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 22:50:29 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 22:40:42 2009. Yes. You're a man of contradictions. ;) |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Nov 22 23:00:35 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:08:43 2009. We have the same problem with our roadside assistance spotting system at my employer. We'll end up with the re-designated name, and sometimes when you mention it, the caller will have nearly no idea of what you're talking about. Usually in most cases, if I have enough information, I'll skip over it, but otherwise, I'll double check with Google maps to confirm the location. Sadly, some of my other fellow colleagues aren't smart enough to do that, and thus end up with angry callers or perpetual calls waiting for somebody else to properly spot the caller. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 23:14:54 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:00:05 2009. Same here. They disappeared from the post offices that I used just in the last 6 months or so. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 23:19:10 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Nov 22 17:05:40 2009. Yeah, but you cut your trip short to go to the Superbowl! That was a wise decision. I've been almost everywhere in the US, but I doubt that I'll ever attend a superbowl. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:09:12 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:01:40 2009. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Nov 23 00:13:42 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:01:40 2009. Cars rule!Right? |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:14:17 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:06:43 2009. They are expensive but they can work if they are done right. If a private developer builds one as part of a mixed use development (retail on the ground level for example), they can recoup most if not all of the cost through parking fees and rents. A lot of New Urbanist types want to eliminate cars completely in many cities and neighborhoods. But many other planners (self included) believe you can have your cake and eat it too; cities and neighborhoods can be both transit and pedestrian friendly as well as accommodating to the automobile. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:14:27 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 22 20:01:40 2009. What's wrong with walking?ADA compliance. New Post Offices should at the very least have handicapped parking. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:16:36 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 22:40:42 2009. NYC has excellent public high schools. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 00:19:27 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:16:36 2009. Sure, but that's not what the stereotype is. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 23 00:20:04 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:14:17 2009. yeah but for a post office?? |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 00:22:14 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Nov 23 00:13:42 2009. Cars don't rule, but buses do suck!I went for a bus trip this past weekend and all I can say is that I would hate my life if I had to commute by bus in Los Angeles. They stop too often, are way too crowded and don't come often enough. And the traffic just seems so much worse when you're on a bus than in a car. And this was a weekend, not rush hour. Buses in Orange County, CA are great though. They just aren't frequent enough. |
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Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 23 00:23:42 2009, in response to Re: Your Post Offices, and do they have parking (Was: Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos), posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 22 22:04:51 2009. Only one of those three POs could possibly have easy street parking, IMO. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 23 00:24:51 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:09:12 2009. Thanks. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:24:57 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 22 20:41:00 2009. lol they can be annoying. But personally I think that new urbanism in general is a good thing. I love neighborhoods and towns that are walkable and mixed use. I also think that transit oriented development is a great way to take advantage of existing transit service. At the same time, there is no reason why these types of land uses and developments cannot comfortably accommodate the car at the same time. I don't know if you're familiar with greater DC, but the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor as well as Alexandria in Arlington County VA, and Silver Spring, MD are examples of this. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:25:58 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 23 00:20:04 2009. well no, not *just* for a post office. I was talking about more in general. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 23 00:26:32 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:14:27 2009. Maybe. But what about all the post offices in this thread that were built in the 1960s-1980s? |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:27:41 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 00:22:14 2009. Did you ride local or Rapid buses (or both)? Do you think the Rapid buses offer a better level of service or not so much? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 23 00:27:43 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:25:58 2009. oh, sure, there are times when parking garages make financial sense. But many people just don't get how expensive they are to build and maintain. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 00:29:08 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:24:57 2009. Alexandria is not in Arlington County. Cities in Virginia are not part of any county.I agree with you about transit and the car coexisting. But I must admit that given a choice between car only and transit only, I prefer car only. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 00:29:24 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 23 00:16:36 2009. Their graduates must post at rr.net. ;) |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 00:42:10 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by JohnnyMints on Mon Nov 23 00:27:41 2009. I rode a local (260) because I didn't do my homework and didn't realize that the Rapids ran on Saturday on the route that I was on. Some routes run Rapids on weekends and some don't. Since the bus stops are physically separated I didn't know the Rapid was running until it passed us.In general the Rapids are much better than locals IMO. They skip 2/3 or 3/4 of the local stops. But they do stop at major intersections and transfer points so unless it's your home line and you want to avoid walking an extra couple of blocks the Rapids are better. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Nov 23 00:56:22 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 00:22:14 2009. I love buses! For obvious reasons. However I really love streetcars/trolleys and light rail.Wish we had the political will to do light rail in NYC transit. I would defintely would do anything to get a transfer to that department! |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 01:09:22 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Nov 23 00:56:22 2009. Buses seem cool, but the experience of riding a busy bus in traffic leaves much to be desired.I like the idea of HBLR being extended to Staten Island. A group on Staten Island should get together and really push that. If they can get funding the MTA would most definitely be interested in overseeing the construction and operating it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 01:27:17 2009, in response to Re: East LA/Boyle Heights photos, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 23 00:42:10 2009. Sounds like a limited bus in NYC, except those share stops with the locals (the Bx12+SBS doesn't but that's different). |
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