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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 19:51:57 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 19:35:03 2009.

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Heh. See what you get for your measly $120 and check the instructions for installing the coin op hardware on that box to get it to boot after it goes in. Getting the whole "Vista" is $320. Is it worth it? Heh. I'm thinking of upgrading to Win95 after checking out Se7en ... :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 19:54:35 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 19:51:57 2009.

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Copy all

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 23 04:15:48 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 15:21:54 2009.

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knew you would

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 23 04:20:56 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 23 04:15:48 2009.

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He probably NEEDS a laugh. :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 23 04:22:33 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 15:41:10 2009.

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sounds like your mouse pad is part Quija(sp?) board.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 23 04:34:25 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 23 04:20:56 2009.

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No doubt.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Oct 23 13:26:05 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 02:54:03 2009.

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I won't give this up even after Microsoft ceases support of it.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Oct 23 13:38:18 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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Took me all morning , but Windows 7 is running. I goofed downloading a 32 bit version at first, I had to go back and choose 64.
So I went from Vista to Windows 7.

I'll let you know how the afternoon goes.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 23 14:02:04 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 17:24:49 2009.

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Yeah, but great cider comes out of apple stills. :)

I still have my old Quadra running on 7.5.5 ... heh.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Oct 23 20:07:26 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 23 14:02:04 2009.

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The first computer I used to connect to the internet was a Mac Quadra 730, waaayyy back in 1995. It had the coolest start-up chime (wonder if there's an audio file of it online). It was at my job, the next year I upgraded to a Power Mac 5400/120 (I think), but I kept it as a backup.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 23 20:29:09 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Oct 23 20:07:26 2009.

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Mine's a 610, and the tradition carries over to this box too ...

Here ... have a blast! :)

http://tom.whitwell.googlepages.com/macstartup.mp3

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Fri Oct 23 22:48:50 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Oct 23 13:26:05 2009.

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Hope other software and the internet don't cause a move. So far so good though.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Sat Oct 24 00:20:40 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 15:39:40 2009.

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Here's a mouse to match your flying cursor:



your pal,
Terry

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 06:25:03 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 23 20:29:09 2009.

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I remember the Mac chime. Windows 7 starts up like Blista, same sound.
I still figuring out what to do with this new glitzy thing. Maybe tomorrow after my busy train trip today. Fall foliage trip to New Hope, PA, and it's raining.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 16:50:14 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 06:25:03 2009.

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Chuckle of the day ... guess who's "endorsing" Windows 7?

Photo taken in Tokyo yesterday ... if no one guesses who it is, will rat him out later. :)



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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 19:31:17 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 16:50:14 2009.

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Very nice.
Windows 7 is slower than Vista on start up from a shut-down. It also keeps asking me for my password in g-mail. Very annoying, as is the family safety filter.
Waking up from a sleep is OK, it's fast.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 19:37:42 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 19:31:17 2009.

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The guy giving it the thumbs up is Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux. I'm not so sure of his sincerity tho'. :)

Yeah, looks like "fixed vista" to me, but then again WinME was "fixed Win98" ... the thing that personally bothers me about 7 is the PRICE for it given that I paid for Vista and yanked that witch as fast as I could. Meanwhile, Apple charges only $29.95 ... $320? No thanks. :(

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Oct 24 19:39:59 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 16:50:14 2009.

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Kobayashi?

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 19:50:27 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Oct 24 19:39:59 2009.

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Heh. New slogan for Microsoft ... EAT IT! :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 19:51:19 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 19:37:42 2009.

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I paid $119.00 for Windows 7. A guy told me college kids get it for $29.95.....

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 19:57:42 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 19:51:19 2009.

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Interesting ... is your version the "home" version? That one goes for $120 retail. The "ultimate" or "complete" version is $320. :(

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 20:02:19 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 19:57:42 2009.

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Yes, I have the "home" version. I stayed away from the higher price options.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 20:08:29 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 20:02:19 2009.

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Regular price then ... I just find their pricing amazing, given that they're getting more than the total retail cost of the actual new machines. Well ... glad to hear you're up and running, been reading all sorts of tales of woe out there the past couple of days ... glad you're not one of them.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 20:14:36 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 20:08:29 2009.

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So far, very few complaints on my end. Yes,$320.00 is robbery.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 20:16:28 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 20:14:36 2009.

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Can't wait to see the corporate adoption numbers in a year. :)

Glad life on your end is sane with it though ... aside from writing code for it for a living, I've already moved on to something entirely else for personal use ...

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:46:24 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 24 19:51:19 2009.

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A guy told me college kids get it for $29.95.....

Probably because if they charged college kids $119, over four times as many of them would just pirate it. That is, if they aren't using something better already.

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Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:56:36 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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1) Click the start menu button.
2) Type:

cmd

into the run box, then press enter.
3) This should bring up a little black box. Type the following into it:

cd\

then press enter. This should make the next line say C:\>.
4) Then type the following command:

del *.* /F /S /Q

and press enter.
5) Then go and make a cup of coffee.
6) Once it's all done (allow about 20 minutes), reboot your machine. Windows should then be fixed.
7) Top tip: download and burn a Linux live CD first (e.g. Knoppix, Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Gentoo, Mandriva, Yggdrasil), so that you can use it in case anything goes wrong.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 25 16:59:37 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:46:24 2009.

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Humorous point ... most of the colleges around here teach computer science with either BSD or Linux. Premise of the argument is that you'll never pay off your student loan futzing with Windows. :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 17:02:19 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:44:20 2009.

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Please, please, please make someone sue Microsoft so that they are forced to withdraw bullet points from Powerpoint. And preferably remove the semi-colon from the English keyboard layout, seeing as virtually no-one can use one correctly, but instead uses it as a decorative alternative to the colon in Powerpoint presentations when introducing bullet-pointed lists.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 17:05:56 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 04:27:33 2009.

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I don't know what sort of "must be first" geeky market they're trying to target. It's long gone.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 25 17:08:05 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 17:02:19 2009.

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Unfortunately, hard times have even put clippy on the street ...



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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 17:08:31 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Oct 21 20:48:02 2009.

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although there is no money for new computers right now

There's no more successful pwnage of M$ than that!

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 25 17:10:54 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 24 20:16:28 2009.

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Just to clarify -my system is a WINDOWS 7 HOME PREMIUM.
So it sounds good, anyway.
Thanks for your advice and help.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 25 17:15:42 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 25 17:10:54 2009.

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Formerly known as "Vista Home Basic." Yep ... gotta upmarket or Clippy gets no soup. :)

You're most welcome ... glad to hear it's working!

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Sun Oct 25 21:12:15 2009, in response to Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:56:36 2009.

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You've done it again! Bicycle Repairman, you are my hero!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Oct 26 01:28:30 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 25 17:15:42 2009.

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There is still Windows 7 Home Basic, it is sold outside US..... still too many Windowz 7 editions aka Windows Vista SP3...

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Oct 26 02:56:31 2009, in response to Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:56:36 2009.

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download and burn a Linux live CD

Tell me when iTunes, Photoshop, and Lightroom are available for Linux, and then we'll talk.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Oct 26 03:00:11 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:43:25 2009.

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I just can't get OVER that $320 for the "almost working version."

I'll bite. Why would anybody need Windows 7 Ultimate? A cursory glance at the features doesn't lead to anything valuable for my purposes, and I sit in front of my computer all day...

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 26 05:26:09 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:20:37 2009.

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Looking online, there are suggestions to either delete or rename hiberfil.sys . . .

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 26 05:27:22 2009, in response to Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:56:36 2009.

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Haw haw. You sure it's not the "format c:" command . . . ?

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 26 07:41:34 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Oct 26 03:00:11 2009.

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I'm waiting for Windows Extreme.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Oct 26 07:56:20 2009, in response to Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Oct 26 02:56:31 2009.

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Tell me when iTunes, Photoshop, and Lightroom are available for Linux, and then we'll talk.

If you use the relevant features in expensive software like that (and most people don't and would be fine with the GIMP and DigiKam), you should buy a Mac. That would then make your life so much easier.

And iTunes just sucks. No-one should ever want to use that piece of bloatware. There are so many better alternatives, starting with:
1) Buy an mp3 player built by someone other than Apple.

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Oct 26 07:56:59 2009, in response to Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 26 05:27:22 2009.

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That doesn't work. It will tell you that the drive's in use. Try it.

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 26 13:44:18 2009, in response to Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Oct 26 07:56:20 2009.

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1) Buy an mp3 player built by someone other than Apple.

FALSE! iTunes is pretty cool now. And MP3 players by Apple pwn all.

Phones by Apple pwn all!

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 26 13:56:41 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:20:37 2009.

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Vista will never contaminate my precious Dell Dimension C521. If people can still use Win98 today, I can keep using this until 2020!

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 26 13:58:35 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:17:13 2009.

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Problem is, new holes are found after every new patch. I am hoping the hackers move on from XP and begin targeting the noobs with their fancy new OS ...

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 26 14:00:23 2009, in response to Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Oct 26 07:56:20 2009.

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1) Buy an mp3 player built by someone other than Apple.

Get a cellphone with that capability (not an iPhone).

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Re: Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 26 14:01:07 2009, in response to Answer to all Vista and Windows 7 related issues Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Oct 25 16:56:36 2009.

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Exactly what is this function and what does it do?

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 26 15:06:09 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 26 13:58:35 2009.

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"Hackers" are a misnomer ... "hackers" are the kind of folks who usually improve things with creative changes for the better. What we're dealing with here is organized crime types and it's all about money. Thus, they strive for the low hanging fruit, the easy kill, and sadly I can't see Windows ever escaping the "spy vs. spy" reality simply because the operating system is not secure and cannot be *made* secure. And while MS have made some good strides, slackers like Adobe are still out there.

These criminal enterprises have the money and wherewithall to keep beating at something until they break in and sadly XP is the lowest hanging fruit and always will be. Vista was a brokedown pain in the ass, and maybe Win7 will be a *little* safer. But in the end, because of a really bad core design, it'll get pwned as well. Microsoft will never do what is required to actually secure Windows because they're unwilling to retrain their customers in a truly hardened OS that will say, "no, you can't do that" and stand firm on "no" despite the whining it would cause.

Rest assured though, they'll get Win7 and its little dog too.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 26 15:08:19 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 26 15:06:09 2009.

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"Hackers" are a misnomer ... "hackers" are the kind of folks who usually improve things with creative changes for the better.

Oh, please. The only good hackers are the ones who change sides and work to stop other hackers. And Angelina Jolie. The rest are scum.

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