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Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009

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Yesterday afternoon, My computer would not recognize the following:
DVD-RW (E)
Compact Flash (F)
XD/SM (H)
Memory Stick (L)
SD Card (J)
Removable Disc (K)

I restarted and nothing changed. I pulled my plug out of the wall and rebooted, and everything came back. Vista is wonderful.
My External drive also changed names from (F) to (G), no problem there.

I ordered Windows 7.


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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 21 11:12:15 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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I'm wondering if that's why my HP laptop* [with Vista] kept shutting down randomly?
Thankfully my other laptop on XP has been working fine since the first day i used it.

*probably not, but still it uses Vista.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 21 11:15:18 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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From what I heard (although Selkirk will have to correct me if I am wrong), I heard that "Windows 7" is just a band aid version of Vista, because Vista has a stigma now.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 11:19:21 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 21 11:15:18 2009.

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We will see.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Amanda on Wed Oct 21 11:19:50 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 21 11:15:18 2009.

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What I've heard about Windows 7 is what XP was to Millennium (although I had no issues with Millenium). Superior product and fixes the problems and some bloat that came with Vista.

Will tell you if that's true when my copy comes.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 11:30:02 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Amanda on Wed Oct 21 11:19:50 2009.

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Thanks, Amanda.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 21 11:45:01 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 21 11:12:15 2009.

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Sounds like a heat issue or a bad solder joint on the MOB.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 21 14:00:38 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 21 11:45:01 2009.

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Oic, thanks for the 2nd opinion. I know Selkirk weighed in on this as well. It gives me a bit of a relief that the problem can be fixed. [It's at the shop getting repaired or replaced.] Hopefully it'll work fine when it comes back in maybe 2 wks.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by JohnL on Wed Oct 21 14:36:45 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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Sometimes/somehow with plug and play devices (which is most of them these days), configuration information gets stuck in the hardware and requires a complete power down, rather than just a reset to fix.

I’m not blaming Vista specifically for this, as it has happened to me with XP as well.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:10:43 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 21 11:12:15 2009.

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Heh. Nope ... you have bad hardware ... What happened to Chuck was a corrupted hibernate file, happens with Win7 too. Even XP though to a lesser extent. The file is used to speed up startup by writing out where the machine was at when it was last used. Sometimes it craps the bed, and when rebooted, Blista remembers and does it again. :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 21 16:13:03 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:10:43 2009.

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With XP there's an option to delete the hibernate file and start over. Does Vista not have this?

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:17:13 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 21 11:15:18 2009.

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Windows 7 is Vista with all the patches, along with a few new gimmicks. Underlying operating system though is still the parts of OS/2 that IBM didn't want way back when. Microsoft called it "NT." Since then, only cosmetics and bandaids. FWIW, if you're in Vista world, the upgrade might not be worth it though since everything that's coming out for Win7 has already been bandaided on Vista.

Vista is to XPee what WinME was to Win98. Win7 is like WinMe2 and not the improvement Win2000 was to NT4. Windows 7 seems to be little more than a marketing tool than anything substantial, but at least they're not calling it "Vista" anymore which appears to be the actual goal. :(

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:20:37 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 21 16:13:03 2009.

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I don't know actually ... I had to install Vista on a few machines to test out the code I was writing at the time. Once I determined that my code was cool with Vista, first thing I did with those machines was douche them and go back to XPee. Couldn't *stand* Blista.

I suspect that the hibernate file goes away after a complete power off and that's how Chuck managed to "win" ... :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 16:37:55 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:20:37 2009.

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I suspect that the hibernate file goes away after a complete power off and that's how Chuck managed to "win" ... :)
Thanks, guys, especially Selkirk.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:59:04 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 16:37:55 2009.

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I'll send yaz a bill. :)


I quack myself up sometimes ...

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 17:03:04 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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this happened to me last night also.

I had my computer left on overnight, probably from watching the philies, and woke up to find it installing updates.

I was wondering if that's what it was. A little coincidental!

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 17:05:01 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 17:03:04 2009.

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Yeah, Microsoft has been applying more bandaids than Johnson & Johnson lately. :(

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 21 17:24:49 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 21 11:15:18 2009.

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win7 soudns like the last version of an Apple i've used. Every windows seems like an old apple still.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 21 18:14:11 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 21 11:15:18 2009.

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I'm glad I got my computer delivered literally the day before Vista took over for XP. I love XP.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Oct 21 20:48:02 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 21 18:14:11 2009.

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I've a Mac person, but I've used PCs at my current job (11 years), used most Windows from 95 to XP, and XP is the only Windows that I've really liked. My job refused to upgrade to Vista, we'll see if they go to Windows 7 (although there is no money for new computers right now).

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Oct 21 21:02:59 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 17:05:01 2009.

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What jerks my chain is MicroSwitsh's habit of ignoring the day of the week you set up on the MS Upgrade site, they still send them when they want to not when you want them to.

I always see what updates are pending when the icon shows up as MS has a habit to send updates for Office 2007 when you still have Office 2003, so I always uncheck those.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Oct 21 21:25:01 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:59:04 2009.

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lmao!

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 21:55:09 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Oct 21 21:02:59 2009.

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For some strange reason, none of that works on BSD. :)

But yeah, nothing like patch Tuesday and that mandatory reboot no matter what you're doing. :(



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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 21 22:13:06 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Oct 21 21:02:59 2009.

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It is false.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Oct 22 02:28:36 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 21 16:13:03 2009.

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Vista has, you go to Disk Cleanup to remove/ turn off Hibernation.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 22 02:46:14 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Oct 22 02:28:36 2009.

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That's not what I was talking about at all.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 02:50:08 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:17:13 2009.

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Good, glad to see the quality goes out before the name goes on.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 02:54:03 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 21 18:14:11 2009.

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Same here, stable and no loss of temper.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:05:09 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 02:50:08 2009.

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I didn't have the heart to tell them that when you install Winblows Se7en, the first thing that happens is your email gets ripped out, moviemaker, most of everything the least bit useful ... if you "upgrade" (still dying laughing about that) to 7, you lose most of what you enjoyed in Xpoo or Blista ...

Out of fear of antitrust headaches, Microsoft has stripped Windows 7 of some important accessory programs. Believe it or not, software for managing photos, editing videos, reading PDF documents, maintaining a calendar, managing addresses, chatting online or writing e-mail doesn’t come with Windows 7. But you can download them after giving Microsoft your personals. Heh. Yeah, that solves the EU. :)

I played with Win7 through the pre-release cycle. It's Blista with chrome hubcaps and no tires. No thanks. I'll use my OWN operating system instead. MUCH saner. Heh.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:06:50 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 02:50:08 2009.

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And oh yeah ... BEST part ... a semi-useful Winblows7? Get this!

$320! Hahahahaha ...

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:18:45 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:05:09 2009.

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XP is great. I like it; it likes me.

This is my own opeating system:



your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:19:45 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:06:50 2009.

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Haha!! I guess that would be "chump change"?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:21:18 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:18:45 2009.

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Only computer I ever needed ... the silicon one is only for surfing for pr0n and TRAIN pr0n ... otherwise, pretty damned useless. :)



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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:25:25 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:19:45 2009.

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I suppose ... Apple's disaster is only $29.95 ... Ballmer still thinks Lehman Brothers is still in business I guess. :)

But AIN'T that BALLS?!?!?!

Every month, the number of bandaids required for Winblows gets bigger and bigger, and the number of bandaids for Winblows7 keeps going up too. Maybe they should install Linux or something. Heh. Meanwhile, I sit here laughing my ass off when I visit sites that tell me that "Windows says your computer is infected" when it's running on BSD ... and nothing happens other than I click the X and it goes away. Heh.

Maybe Winblows users should upgrade to a Comodore64 ... ain't been hacked yet! (grin)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:27:54 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:21:18 2009.

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Good ole Magic-Brain. It's hyphenated so you know somebody smart built it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:29:00 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:25:25 2009.

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I know, it's taken me years to realize that Windows IS the virus.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:41:29 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:27:54 2009.

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Heh. Never needs a charge either. And in ice-storm country, that's important. :)

And unlike "Calc" ... it doesn't blow its brains out over a -1 like Exhell. Heh.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:42:43 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:41:29 2009.

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I choose not to excel at excel.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:43:25 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:29:00 2009.

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NEW IMPROVED PRICE! Add every antivirus made and STILL save! :)

I just can't get OVER that $320 for the "almost working version." DAYUM ... they're channeling PT Barnum at dialup speed!

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:44:20 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 03:42:43 2009.

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I'm waiting for the powerpoint meeting on it. Got dognuts? :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 04:26:09 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:44:20 2009.

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Just the little Hostess ones. Pre-bailout we could afford Entenmann's.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 04:27:33 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 03:43:25 2009.

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The rule now is don't buy ANYTHING when it first hits the shelves. Let the chumps take the lumps.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Oct 22 06:02:50 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 21 16:59:04 2009.

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You should've used the real picture of you:
OOOPS

OOOPS sorry I meant this one, it's much funnier:
SELKOOK

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 22 06:15:58 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Oct 22 06:02:50 2009.

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That photo is classic. And the guy in it won't cry like a little bitch to have it taken down like a certain person here.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 15:21:54 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Oct 22 06:02:50 2009.

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I'm telling Larry! Heh.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 15:25:54 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 22 04:26:09 2009.

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Heh. Beats the munchkins they're handing out here. Looks like a dog's been eating them. :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 15:39:40 2009, in response to Computer issues- Vista, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Oct 21 10:55:11 2009.

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At least twice each week the cursor floats and jumps around my screen. The only way I can control it is if I press the mousepad extremely hard but then it only moves about 1/10" at a time. Once in awhile I can regain control by slowly moving it to a link and clicjing but it normally requires reboot. I heard Vista users experience this phenomenon more than occasionally. I also got the Blue Screen of Death for the first time last week after running Vista for about 6 months, and just to piss me off, it happened again earlier this week.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 15:41:10 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 15:39:40 2009.

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Oh yeah, when the cursor goes off, I can move it around the screen by waving my hand about 1/2" above the mousepad.

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 15:51:41 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 15:39:40 2009.

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That's a weird one. :)

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Re: Computer issues- Vista

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 22 19:35:03 2009, in response to Re: Computer issues- Vista, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 22 15:51:41 2009.

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Happens all the time. I researched some and read reviews, but while I got you, do you think it's worth me dropping 120 large to upgrade Vista to 7? kthx

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