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"Islamo-fascism"??

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 18 15:37:02 2005

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Man, do I hate pseudojargon.

As I understand Fascism (from the old Roman symbol for the magistrate's authority; the word refers to rods around an axe-handle), it exalts the state above the individual; it urges loyalty to a single supreme leader; it is desperately anti-Communist and against other left-wing political ideals; it also exalts corporatism as a form of government; and indeed it is very totalitarian and employs violence and propaganda to enforce its agenda.

Muslim extremism would be better described as a form of theocratic totalitarianism, correct? It does not recognize any state; it is against both right and left wings of Westernized political systems; it certainly does not want corporations, but rather clerics to hold the rule of law . . .

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by BIE on Mon Jul 18 16:07:26 2005, in response to "Islamo-fascism"??, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 18 15:37:02 2005.

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But they have been suckered by the economic powers that be in their part of the world (the Oil interests) so they make war against the engine of western freedom (liberalism) and they (and big oil) are winning.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Jul 19 12:17:01 2005, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by BIE on Mon Jul 18 16:07:26 2005.

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western freedom (liberalism)

I don't think that 'liberalism' is a good way of saying western freedom. Conservatives believe in a free country as well as liberals.
(Well, most of them. There are exceptions to each.)

-James

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 19 12:57:45 2005, in response to "Islamo-fascism"??, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 18 15:37:02 2005.

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It's the same with "homophobia", which really means a fear of homosexuality, not disapproval. But that's how the word is generally used today.

For the Muslim extremists, the state and Islam are one and the same. In that context, the word "Islamofascism" is perfectly appropriate.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by American Pig on Tue Jul 19 13:41:11 2005, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Jul 19 12:17:01 2005.

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Relative to history and to the Islamofascists, conservatives in the West are liberal. Liberals would be even more liberal (ultra-liberal if you will).

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 19 15:31:46 2005, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by American Pig on Tue Jul 19 13:41:11 2005.

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True. If this were 1969 and not 2005, I'd be a liberal. But times change.

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More intelligent posts more Olog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 14 19:47:08 2011, in response to "Islamo-fascism"??, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 18 15:37:02 2005.

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yup

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Re: More stalking by dand124 the psychopath

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 14 19:48:29 2011, in response to More intelligent posts more Olog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 14 19:47:08 2011.

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Get a life, couldja. What happend to you between 2004 and now? because you seemed very normal back then.

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More intelligent posts more Olog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 14 19:52:13 2011, in response to Re: More stalking by dand124 the psychopath, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 14 19:48:29 2011.

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stalkers don't usually praise the person they're stalking.

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Re: more stalking by dandKKK

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 14 19:53:47 2011, in response to More intelligent posts more Olog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by dand124 on Wed Sep 14 19:52:13 2011.

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Ain't that a lie. That's one of the first things stalkers do, to try to gain the confidence of the stalkee.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 01:27:53 2013, in response to "Islamo-fascism"??, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 18 15:37:02 2005.

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you are correct!

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:35:01 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 01:27:53 2013.

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Actually I was not very correct, dandKKK stalker. Unlike you though, I am still capable of learning.

Since you don't bother to research anything, I'll tell you straight out that modern Islamic thought in the Middle East is based on Islamic Socialism, which is a branch of National Socialism. (Recognize the name?)

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 01:40:20 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:35:01 2013.

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. Unlike you though, I am still capable of learning.


you seem to think that "learning" is a synonym for "going insane".

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:42:33 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 01:40:20 2013.

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. . . says the wacko that reads antiwar.com. Einstein was right about people like you.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 01:46:15 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:42:33 2013.

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says the FReeper who believes that Grillo is in the governing coalition and that Eire has broken diplomatic relations with the Holy See.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:49:13 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 01:46:15 2013.

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Ireland broke off diplomatic relations with the vatican in 2011, genius. And the kerfuffle with Grillo is not over yet, unless you actually think things are really settled in Italy's non-government.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 01:54:20 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:49:13 2013.

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Ireland broke off diplomatic relations with the vatican in 2011, genius.

LOL


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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:58:20 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 01:54:20 2013.

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It's closed, nutjob. Read the Reuters article.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 02:05:55 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:58:20 2013.

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yeah, two-year old Reuters article over a current page of the Irish Embassy's website.

Very logical...for people like you.

I'm gonna call that number later.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:07:16 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 02:05:55 2013.

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in olog's world a Reuters article is valid but a two year old bill kristol column is not.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:08:03 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:07:16 2013.

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Three-year old Kristol column, especially when a one-year-old one by the same guy "refudiates" his earlier stuff.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 02:10:28 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:49:13 2013.

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And the kerfuffle with Grillo is not over yet, unless you actually think things are really settled in Italy's non-government.

LOL



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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:11:26 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:08:03 2013.

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especially when a one-year-old one by the same guy "refudiates" his earlier stuff.


except it doesn't

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:13:52 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 02:05:55 2013.

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two-year old Reuters article over a current page of the Irish Embassy's website

Do some research, smazNazi. The Irish embassy in the Vatican is closed and has not reopened; the Villa Spada houses Ireland's ambassador to Italy currently. Would you like a more current article?

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:14:40 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:11:26 2013.

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Except it does.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:16:31 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:14:40 2013.

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wanting to raise taxes doesn't make him liberal

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:17:43 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 01:42:33 2013.

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Einstein was right about people like you.

what do you think Einstein said about "people like me"?

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:19:51 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:16:31 2013.

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Certainly doesn't make him conservative! The only alternative is that he's gone back to his liberal roots. And note that he's targeting "the millionaires", which is unmistakably liberal/Marxist.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:20:30 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:17:43 2013.

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Oh, that thing about trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result every time.

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:27:50 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:20:30 2013.

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when have i done that?

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Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 02:37:06 2013, in response to Re: ''Islamo-fascism''??, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 02:19:51 2013.

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The only alternative is that he's gone back to his liberal roots.


what liberal roots? are you thinking of the fact that his father was a trotskyite?

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